05-16-2006, 12:18 AM
05-16-2006, 07:13 AM
Tzippi Wrote:
What G-D has done for me???
He took me out of Messianic Judaism and into the ancient arms of Kol Israel. The real deal.
Shavua Tov!
Does that mean that you have no provision? Do you have a permanent and perfect provision for your sins? The whole point of Torah was to let us know about the covering and provision God has for our sin. How do you expect to pay for your debt of sin if you do not believe or accept the covering and provision that Abraham and Moses told us about?
Only God Himself can undo the damage we have done on this earth. We have the power to destroy but we cannot recreate life nor can we raise ourselves from the dead. Only God can do those things. We will never make it to heaven if we rely on ourselves. We have been cut off and separated from Him because of our sin.
God spoke time after time about Messiah. How can you not believe in Messiah? He was real when they spoke of Him and He was real when He came and gave us His cleansing Spirit. God is able to save us through the blood of His Son, sending us His Spirit. It pays our debt of sin and gives us the power to become sons of God through the work of His Spirit and by the power of His word of truth which is in all who believe His word.
God is very much able to make a provision for us the way Abraham and Moses illustrated for us. Perhaps no one ever explained it to you very well.
Shalom!
05-20-2006, 01:24 AM
Uhhh...I didn't say that I didn't believe in the Moshiach.
I just know JC wasn't him.
But maybe no one ever explained it to you very well.
I just know JC wasn't him.
But maybe no one ever explained it to you very well.
05-25-2006, 09:10 AM
Tzippi Wrote:
Uhhh...I didn't say that I didn't believe in the Moshiach.
I just know JC wasn't him.
You did say you are not into Messianic Judaism. You must believe in Original Judaism and you must believe in the provision of Messiah... Messianic Judaism.
We would have a lot better discussions if everyone knew and believed in all of the Messianic prophecies of Original Judaism.
Before one can understand how Messiah can make an end of sin and bring peace on earth, one must understand He is the seed of the woman from the very beginning... One from among us... a ruler who's days are from the days of eternity... born in Bethlehem... born of a virgin... God with us... Eternal Father... Mighty God... the God of Israel, the man that gave Jacob the name Israel... the One that ascended and descended... that He is God along with His Spirit sent by God. That God cannot be seen at any time by any man yet He is God and He was seen many times in Torah.
There are a lot of things to reconcile.
I can sleep at night because I know...
The only way for anyone to see God is to see Moshiach. That's why I believe Y'shua is Moshiach.
Shalom!
06-14-2006, 04:35 PM
Isaiah 7:14 NIV
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
Psalm 110:1 NIV
The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."
Isaiah 53 NIV
Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. By ppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Acts 2:36-38 NIV
"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Peace to all who know and love the truth.
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
Psalm 110:1 NIV
The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."
Isaiah 53 NIV
Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. By ppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Acts 2:36-38 NIV
"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Peace to all who know and love the truth.
10-31-2006, 08:17 AM
Hi Tzippi,
How do you know that Jesus wasn't the messiah?....Are you sure enough to put eternal life on the line?...just wondering....I hope you find the Truth.
How do you know that Jesus wasn't the messiah?....Are you sure enough to put eternal life on the line?...just wondering....I hope you find the Truth.
12-29-2006, 09:19 AM
Tzippi Wrote:
What G-D has done for me???
He took me out of Messianic Judaism and into the ancient arms of Kol Israel. The real deal.
Shavua Tov!
I think that Tzippi's "testimony" was a low shot at JFJ. If people are going to come on this board, they ought to respect that the Jews and Gentiles here are either seekers or Messianics; and if they're just looking to cause trouble, leave the seekers and Messianics alone.
01-04-2007, 06:09 AM
Seekmosttoprophesy Wrote:
Tzippi Wrote:
What G-D has done for me???
He took me out of Messianic Judaism and into the ancient arms of Kol Israel. The real deal.
Shavua Tov!
Does that mean that you have no provision? Do you have a permanent and perfect provision for your sins? The whole point of Torah was to let us know about the covering and provision God has for our sin. How do you expect to pay for your debt of sin if you do not believe or accept the covering and provision that Abraham and Moses told us about?
Only God Himself can undo the damage we have done on this earth. We have the power to destroy but we cannot recreate life nor can we raise ourselves from the dead. Only God can do those things. We will never make it to heaven if we rely on ourselves. We have been cut off and separated from Him because of our sin.
God spoke time after time about Messiah. How can you not believe in Messiah? He was real when they spoke of Him and He was real when He came and gave us His cleansing Spirit. God is able to save us through the blood of His Son, sending us His Spirit. It pays our debt of sin and gives us the power to become sons of God through the work of His Spirit and by the power of His word of truth which is in all who believe His word.
God is very much able to make a provision for us the way Abraham and Moses illustrated for us. Perhaps no one ever explained it to you very well.
Shalom!
01-04-2007, 06:12 AM
GoyOfY'shua Wrote:
Tzippi Wrote:
What G-D has done for me???
He took me out of Messianic Judaism and into the ancient arms of Kol Israel. The real deal.
Shavua Tov!
I think that Tzippi's "testimony" was a low shot at JFJ. If people are going to come on this board, they ought to respect that the Jews and Gentiles here are either seekers or Messianics; and if they're just looking to cause trouble, leave the seekers and Messianics alone.
01-04-2007, 09:43 AM
Kibbles and Bits Wrote:
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Can you clarify what you mean by some Jews are gentiles?
I am confused....
thanks
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