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QUESTION:

Does the resurrection of Jesus Christ, as defined in all the Scriptures ("beginning with the books of Moses and the writings of all the prophets", Luke 24: 25-27) allow for a 3-day intervening burial before entering his glory?

IMO, it does not make any matter, if anyone else thought, spoke, or wrote anything about the 3-day's in the crypt.  Jesus said what would happen, as He would also give up His own life, and bring himself back to life.  Jesus, through His teaching, witnessed to His own power to do exactly what He prophesied, including exactly how long He would be in the grave.

I would do a search, for more information to relate to, but the hard drive I have all my e-sword files and Faith files on, crashed about three hours ago, and I have to attempt a recovery/resurrection, before I can regain access.  (I sure do hate loosing 15Gb of commentaries, and teachings)  Oh Well.  

I am off to resurrect my hard drive......Pray I succeed.

In Messiah, His Shalom, and blessings.  Arley

Essene View of Resurrection.

"Particularly firm is their doctrine of Resurrection; they believe that the flesh will rise again and then be immortal like the soul, which, they say, when separated from the body, enters a place of fragrant air and radiant light, there to enjoy rest-a place called by the Greeks who heard [of this doctrine] the 'Isles of the Blest.' But," continues the writer, in a passage characteristically omitted by Josephus, "there are other doctrines besides, which many Greeks have appropriated and given out as their own opinions. For their disciplinary life [ἄóêçóéò] in connection with the things divine is of greater antiquity than that of any other nation, so that it can be shown that all those who made assertions concerning God and Creation derived their principles from no other source than the Jewish legislation. [This refers to the Ḥasidean "ma'aseh'merkabah" and "ma'aseh bereshit."] Among those who borrowed from the Essenes were especially Pythagoras and the Stoics; their disciples while returning from Egypt did likewise [this casts new light on Josephus' identification of the Essenes with the Pythagoreans: "Ant." xv. 10, § 4]; for they affirm that there will be a Judgment Day and a burning up of the world, and that the wicked will be eternally punished.(comp. Horwitz, "Baraita di Nidda," i. 2).

"Also prophecy and the foretelling of future events are practised by them. [Josephus has in addition: "For this purpose they are trained in the use of holy writings, in various rites of purification, and in prophetic (apocalyptic?) utterances; and they seldom make mistakes in their predictions."] Then there is a section of the Essenes who, while agreeing in their mode of life, differ in regard to marriage, declaring that those who abstain from marrying commit an awful crime, as it leads to the extinction of the human race. But they take wives only after having, during three years' observation of their course of life, been convinced of their power of child-bearing, and avoid intercourse during pregnancy, as they marry merely for the sake of offspring. The women when undergoing ablutions are arrayed in linen garments like the men in order not to expose their bodies to the light of day"

http://mb-soft.com/believe/txo/pharise2.htm

If Jesus Christ was overcome by death on the cross and in the grave (3 days) before his resurrection, he can neither be called "Son of the living God", i.e., immortal, characterized by life of unending existence; nor accepted as true to his word ("ever" as used in Matt. 16:18); nor attributed victory in his death over the Devil and deaath (Heb. 2:14).

Therefore, our understanding of the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead (which seems to have undergone serious corruption in post-Apostolic times) requires fine-drawing with the relevant teachings in the gospel, the books of Moses, the writings of the prophets and the witness of the Apostles.

Otherwise, many of us will stand to lose for good the opportunity to experience firsthand the awesome life-transforming power involved in the death of Jesus Christ on the cross --the one-stop ministry for the all-inclusive, firsthand and personal knowledge of God by baptism in the Holy Spirit as signed, sealed and delivered under the "new covenant" (Jer. 31: 31-34; Matt. 26: 26-29 ff; 1 Cor. 2: 1-5; Phil. 3: 10-11.).

Pauls rebbe continues on course with the truth from Torah.

[1 Rabbi Gamaliel's proof was taken from Deut. i. 8: 'Which Jehovah sware unto your fathers to give unto them.' It is not said 'unto you,' but unto 'them,' which implies the resurrection of the dead.

[8] Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

And then the words of our Messiah King and Lord Jesus, That God is God of the living!

Matt.22
[32] I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Luke.24
[5] And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

Pauls rebbe continues on course with the truth from Torah.

[1 Rabbi Gamaliel's proof was taken from Deut. i. 8: 'Which Jehovah sware unto your fathers to give unto them.' It is not said 'unto you,' but unto 'them,' which implies the resurrection of the dead.

[8] Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

And then the words of our Messiah King and Lord Jesus, That God is God of the living!

Matt.22
[32] I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Luke.24
[5] And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

Rom.8
[13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify* the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


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*G2289
θανατόω
thanatoō
than-at-o'-o
From G2288; to kill (literally or figuratively): - become dead, (cause to be) put to death, kill, mortify

[color=green]What about all the altruistic language, in general, Jesus used about himself (Phil. 2: 5-11); and clear undervaluing of the claims about himself, in particular (John 5:31)?