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In the Hebrew, a correct reading and rendering of Psalm 11:4 into English (while sanctifying the NAME) is:

"HASHEM.  In His Holy Temple, HASHEM: in the heavens, His Throne.
His eyes see: His EYELIDS WILL EXAMINE AND TEST THE INTELLECTUAL AND INTUITIVE KNOWLEDGE of the sons of Man."

The literal rendering of "Aph'Aph" is as the "fluttering eyelashes", and it denotes the activity of wings fluttering or sparks flying (ascending) upward.  As "eyelids" we see that the verb takes on a physical presence or manifestation.  In effect, this Psalm is predicting an "incarnation" of the same HASHEM who is in His Holy Temple, and who also sits upon His Throne in the Heavens.  
  
What does the HASHEM come "in the flesh"/ "incarnate" do?  He examines and tests both the intellectual and intuitive knowledge of the sons of Israel.  Examine the Gospels, for in His dealings with most everyone, Jesus fulfills the Hebrew prophecy of Psalm 11:4 to the very word picture understanding, literally.  He not only examines...He tests both the intellectual and intuitive knowledge in the particular type of "examination" that "Bachan" entails.  Shalom.
Comfy Cozzy recently inquired about Isaiah 63:16, which I found quite appropriate to respond to in this section here, dealing with the INCARNATE HASHEM who is -- as Isaiah 63:16 puts it: "Our redeemer from Everlasting".  

“You, HASHEM, are our Father (and)
‘OUR REDEEMER FROM EVERLASTING’ is Your NAME.”  (Isaiah 63:16b)

“Our Redeemer” in the Hebrew is Ga’alenu.  Ga’alenu in the context of Isaiah 63:16 is He who purchases us and buys us back from sin from a time when sin was not.  In other words, G-D who exists before sin, restores or is purchasing us back to be restored to an original position of what He originally intended us to be.  It is not only to a time before all sin offerings (be it an “olah’/burnt offering, or a “hattat”/sin offering, or an “asham”/trespass offering), it is before the very foundation of the world, and before any Creation was ever created.

Isaiah 63 begins with the consequence and bloodiness of sin.  In the Old Testament Covenant system, G-D makes Himself the Savior of those who trust rightly in Him (Isaiah 63:8).  And who are they that put their trust in G-D rightly?  In the entirety of the verse, we see…

“For You (are) our Father, though Abraham knows us not,
and Israel acknowledges us not.      
You, HASHEM, are our Father (and)
‘our Redeemer from everlasting’ is Your NAME.”  (Isaiah 63:16)

In many ways, it seems to be us...which is one of the reasons Christians (especially us of the Gentiles) love the book of Isaiah so much.

This "REDEEMER from everlasting"  is the same as Micah 5:2,
“Whose goings forth are of old, even from everlasting.”
This is Yeshua.  This is the One called SALVATION.

Micah and Isaiah both shared circa 45-year contemporaneous ministry.  The two actually compliment each other’s ministry.  As the Scroll of Micah says,

“Who is a G-D like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the Remnant of His Heritage?  He retaineth not His anger forever, because He delighteth in mercy.
   He will turn again, and have compassion upon us; HE WILL SUBDUE OUR INIQUITIES; and Thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.” (Micah 7:18-19).    Even so, Amen.
In various passages of the Tenach, we read that:

"There is none holy as the LORD:
for there is none beside thee..." (e.g., I Samuel 2:2)

In Psalm 110:1,  we find that there is the exaltation of the Master, the Adonee -- who in I Samuel 2:10 is identified as King Messiah.

In Daniel 9:25, Messiah the King and Master is called a "nagid" in the Hebrew.  In effect, it means "one who is prominently before" or chief, encompassing governmental - military - religious ranks all into His one person.  The idea then carries us back to the manifestation of G-D incarnate -- the EL Gibbor --  who takes these ranks upon Himself in Isaiah (9:5 in the Hebrew Text, 9:6 in the English text).

In the following verse, He sits upon the throne of David, but it is to an heir or branch of David that an eternal rulership is promised. That is, it must be a Son of David who is both a Son and HASHEM Incarnate, as Jeremiah 23:5-6 tells us:

"Behold, the days come, saith HASHEM,
that I will raise unto David a Righteous Branch [a son},
and (as) King shall reign and prosper,
and shall execute justice and judgement in the Earth.
In His days, Judah shall be saved,
and Israel shall dwell safely:
and THIS IS HIS NAME whereby He shall be called,
'HASHEM OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS'."

This HASHEM who is to become flesh, is asked by the Psalmist to visit Israel...to visit the Vine, and is identified as the RIGHT HAND of HASHEM in Name or Title (Psalm 80:14-15,17; cf. Exodus 15:3,6).  

G-D lifts His HAND to the Nations,
and the (Right) HAND becomes a STANDARD [banner, sail, gleam from far away] to the people (Isaiah 49:22).  This directly points us back to HASHEM-Nissi in Exodus 17:15, HASHEM our Banner:
1) Whom in Isaiah 5:26 is an Ensign to the Nations, and who causes the Last Days Aliyah Ingathering of Israel from out of all nations.
2) Whom in Isaiah 11:10 is identified as a descendant of Jesse, HASHEM manifest through this lineage, and trusted by us Goyim (Gentiles), in whom we find glorious rest.
3) Whom in Zechariah 6:12-13, will build the Temple of HASHEM, bear the glory, sit as king - priest - counselor upon it.  
4) Whom was clearly identified in the Gospels as Jesus, in front of the High Priest and Sanhedrin, by an oath upon the Divine utterance by the High priest in Matthew 26:63-64.

The evidence of Yeshua isn't and never was lacking. Only belief in HASHEM's Word has been lacking in our opponents.  Shalom.
Brianroy,

Thank you. Excellent posts.

Can I rent your brain for a day?
In Daniel 9:22 ff., we that that there are only 69 heptads of years to which the city of Jerusalem and the holy people (the nation of Israel) are to exist in the sense of a means that Daniel could recognize.

Because "the NAME" --  YHVEH -- subsumes all 3 tenses of the verb "to be" in Hebrew (hayah, hoveh, yiheyeh) -- and that Yeshua is HASHEM -- when Yeshua HASHEM the Messhiach was cut off by laying His life down, time stopped on the Judgment clock of G-D.

That clock has left a single week of years -- 7 years -- and it is about to start up again, and bring such fright and devastation upon the world, that unbelievers should be as "Charada" (as those dead from fright, or fleeing to deep coal minds in uncontrollable fear) because of even the knowledge of it (should they choose to reject Christ).

"The NAME" -- YHVeH -- subsumes all 3 tenses of the verb "to be" in the Hebrew because: G-D is above time, and beyond time, and the Creator of it.  G-D created time for this particular enclosed Universe in which we live for the benefit of man, and encapsulated sin before it ever began.  Time was created for our sakes, as it were.

In Judaism, YHVeH is spoken as " HASHEM" when simply referred by reverence.  When YHVeH is directly read, it is spoken as "Adonai"  in reverence.  But when exorcism is performed, the name YHVeH is directly spoken.  The very name of Jesus has an even greater authority in exorcism, because it is the name of man's redemption, and the new name which YHVeH Himself has made Himself known to us -- as He has also done with the Patriarchs and with Moses at the Burning Bush, for example.

I would ask those who do not believe in the Incarnation of HASHEM to consider Daniel 9:22 ff. in this way.  
1)  When can the finishing of transgression take place according to this time-line given Daniel?
2) What does the finishing of transgression truly mean?
3)  Who or what makes an END of sins?
4) By when is the end of sins to take place by?  And how is it possible?
5) What is covered by the "reconciliation of iniquity" and when and how is it to occur by?
6)  Who or what can bring in everlasting righteousness?  And when is it to occur by?
7)  What is the legal weight of the clause "to seal up (both) the vision and prophecy"?  Can it not be a means of stopping a "Judgement clock" and extend the deadline?
8) Whom is the Most Holy that must be anointed?  By when must He be anointed by?  And why would someone purposely say we must anoint a city or Temple in place of a Messhiach here?  Where is its example in scripture?  And what is the predominant and repetitive quotation of anointing in Scripture pointing to --  person or building(s)?
Regarding Jeremiah 23:1-8, Lamentations Rabbah 1:51 states:

'What is the NAME of the King Messiah?'

Rabbi Abba ben Kahana said:
His Name is "Adonai", as it is stated
      - "And this is the NAME whereby He shall be called:
         Adonai is our Righteousness."
  [verse 6].

In this, the Jewish reading aloud of Jeremiah 23:6 will be YHVeH "read" as Adonai.  Adonai is the NAME of King Messiah, and therefore YHVeH is the NAME of King Messiah according to Lamentations 1:51's Rabbi Abba ben Kahana.

Therefore, when YHVeH speaks unto Adonai in Psalm 110:1, it is YHVeH speaking unto YHVeH, and G-D (the Father) unto King Messiah (who is also YHVeH).

In Psalm 65:5-7, the confidence is placed in G-D the Father of King Messiah (who here is called "salvation"), while King Messiah -- who is in the bosom of G-D the Father (Psalm 74:11-12; John 1:18) -- has the power to make still the storm and seas (cf. Psalm 107:28-30; and Jesus fulfilling this that only YHVeH King Messiah can do, in Matthew 8:23-27).  Hence, faith in G-D the Father through King Messiah as the only way of deliverance is actually an Old Testament concept fulfilled in the New Testament.

We therefore, as born-again Christian Evangelicals, are fully vindicated as practicing a restored form of Faith given by G-D to Israel that was to be dispensed to us of the nations from early times...but neglected by them to do so until after He was born among man, and discipled sons of Israel in person to do so.  Hence, "redispensed" after an original intent through Christ.  

We are called by the Hebrew Scriptures themselves to be worshipping G-D from G-D, Light from Light, very G-D of very G-d, begotten not made, who being once substance with the Father created all that was made.

And it is through the New Testament, that we realize that King Messiah, Yeshua, is He who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And was incarnate of the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary and was made man; was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate, suffered and was buried; and the third day rose again according to the Scriptures.

From both the Old and New Testaments, we know that King Messiah, Yeshua, is He whom ascended into heaven, sits at the right hand of the Father, and shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead, of whose Kingdom there shall be no end. Amen.
Brian Roy,

Sorry, but Psalm 65:6- With wondrous works dost Thou answer us in righteousness, O G-d of our salvation; Thou the confidence of all the ends of the earth, and of the far distant sea

does NOT mean king messiah. It means that Hashem will save us from our enemies and trouble.

I see you like to quote "hebrew words" and transfigure them into "xtain themes".

The funny thing is, the Jews who speak and know Hebrew can see right through it. If it were as obvious as you make it, you would have thousands of Orthodox Jews converting.

Don't see that happening!
searchinmyroots Wrote:

Brian Roy,

Sorry, but Psalm 65:6- With wondrous works dost Thou answer us in righteousness, O G-d of our salvation; Thou the confidence of all the ends of the earth, and of the far distant sea

does NOT mean king messiah. It means that Hashem will save us from our enemies and trouble.

I see you like to quote "hebrew words" and transfigure them into "xtain themes".

The funny thing is, the Jews who speak and know Hebrew can see right through it. If it were as obvious as you make it, you would have thousands of Orthodox Jews converting.

Don't see that happening!



I see it happening Look In the Talmuds we have rabbi believing in super natural messiah others just human.

others the suffering servant read 98 B of the Babylonian tulmud  and others israel.


The funny thing is, the Jews who speak and know Hebrew can see right through it. If it were as obvious as you make it, you would have thousands of Orthodox Jews converting.


I think what funny not ever rabbi is not in agreement with israel being the messiah but It refering to a Man.

I guess they are not as well raise in understanding hebrew either ehh?

some think The messiah is somewhat super human doing feast that man can not do I guess they do not understand hebrew either?


I guess the 70 rabbis that translation  The hebrew text into greek and in isaiah 7:14 they translation it into meaning virgin when they understood the language very well but I guess they did not?

I Guess they did not know there hebrew?
Yeshua prophesied and identified as King Messiah From the Tanakh:

4 Times in the Torah:

Genesis 49:18, the name Yeshua (Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin) appears in the Hebrew as the identity  of King Messiah in this and all following verses I will cite.   From the Torah’s own prophecy, from Jacob speaking as one of the prophets, is Yeshua NAMED by the patriarch as the Savior of his progeny.

Savior / Messiah:

Ge 49:18 I have waited for thy Yeshua, O L-RD.


The G-D whom the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew:

Ex 14:13 And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the Yeshua  of the L-RD, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day, ye shall see them again no more for ever.

Ex 15:2 The L-RD is my strength and song, and he is become my Yeshua : He is my G-D, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.


In context of these two chapters, this same G-D, Yeshua, is He  who "roars from Heaven" to save Israel at the Reed / Red Sea, and  is He who saves and Raptures (snatches to safety) in Psalm 50:1-6, Psalm 29:3; Joel 2:11, 3:15-16.


He is scorned and lightly esteemed by those who claim themselves as the best and most upright of Jews or of Israel *in the end times:

De 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he abandoned G-D which made him, and scorned lightly the Rock of his Yeshua.


King Messiah who Jacob the Patriarch prophesied of, is Yeshua:

1Sa 2:1 And Hannah prayed, and said, My heart rejoiceth in the L-RD, mine horn is exalted in the L-RD: my mouth is enlarged over mine enemies; because I rejoice in thy Yeshua.

1 Samuel 2:10 identifies Yeshua of verse 1 as the Messiah, even as prophesied by Jacob in Genesis 49:18.  


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* Genesis Rabbah 77:1, Bamidbar/ Numbers 23:10, Yoma 73b
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