07-07-2009, 08:19 PM
07-09-2009, 02:35 AM
Rabbi Yisroel ben Avrohom Wrote:
RABURGHEN Wrote:
Feast of Firstfruits, .10-11, is held on the Sunday following Unleavened Bread.
No it isn't.
And why do you repeat your posts?
I was wondering the same thing, there ARE little changes if you look closely though!
07-09-2009, 05:36 AM
Leviticus 23:11 states: "And he shall wave the omer before the Lord so that it will be acceptable for you; the kohen shall wave it on the day after the rest day."
That could mean either one of two things: that the first sheaf is to be waved on the first day of the week, or it is to be waved on the day after the special rest day of the seven days of unleavened bread. Since verse 15 goes on to count seven weeks to the feast of weeks, also on the day after the seventh sabbath, when there is no special rest day, I have concluded that Leviticus 23:11 refers to the day after the regular Sabbath, so that the kohen waves the first sheaf on the first day of the week. I wonder what gives Rabbi Yisroel the confidence to state: "No it isn't."
That could mean either one of two things: that the first sheaf is to be waved on the first day of the week, or it is to be waved on the day after the special rest day of the seven days of unleavened bread. Since verse 15 goes on to count seven weeks to the feast of weeks, also on the day after the seventh sabbath, when there is no special rest day, I have concluded that Leviticus 23:11 refers to the day after the regular Sabbath, so that the kohen waves the first sheaf on the first day of the week. I wonder what gives Rabbi Yisroel the confidence to state: "No it isn't."
07-09-2009, 10:14 PM
ThomasDGW Wrote:
Leviticus 23:11 states: "And he shall wave the omer before the Lord so that it will be acceptable for you; the kohen shall wave it on the day after the rest day."
That could mean either one of two things: that the first sheaf is to be waved on the first day of the week, or it is to be waved on the day after the special rest day of the seven days of unleavened bread. Since verse 15 goes on to count seven weeks to the feast of weeks, also on the day after the seventh sabbath, when there is no special rest day, I have concluded that Leviticus 23:11 refers to the day after the regular Sabbath, so that the kohen waves the first sheaf on the first day of the week. I wonder what gives Rabbi Yisroel the confidence to state: "No it isn't."
Because to me the Feast of the First Fruits is the Festival of Shavuot, what you call Pentecost.
07-10-2009, 11:42 PM
"Because to me the Feast of the First Fruits is the Festival of Shavuot, what you call Pentecost."
The way you stated it without this explanation gave the impression that Zola Levitt was incorrect, and that is at least bordering on dishonesty. I think you knew well that he was referring to what is literally "the beginning of harvest", which many also call first-fruits. There is a time to be concise, and there is a time to be complete.
The way you stated it without this explanation gave the impression that Zola Levitt was incorrect, and that is at least bordering on dishonesty. I think you knew well that he was referring to what is literally "the beginning of harvest", which many also call first-fruits. There is a time to be concise, and there is a time to be complete.
07-11-2009, 01:56 PM
PENTACOST (50TH Day) SHAVUOT Sunday 8 SIVAN 3790; May 26, 30AD; AM 4082
Sheaf of Firstfruits (LEV. 23:10)
V. 11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the
Sabbath the priest shall wave it.
V. 12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an He Lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
V.13 And the meat offering thereof shall be 2/10 deals of the flour mingled with Oil, (i.e. Holy Ghost)
[1/10 i.e. JESUS and 1/10 the Righteous, or 1/10 of the City, 200,000,000; the Bride], an offering made by fire
(Burning Truth) unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering shall be of wine,
(i.e. the New Wine), the ¼ part of an hin. [#4 = testing or trial.]
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB

07-11-2009, 02:17 PM
3/30 Saturday 10 NISAN 3790 [Great Sabbath]; Jesus’ 34th Birthday. Choosing the Paschal Lamb.
4/3 Wednesday 14 NISAN 3790 Ta’anit Bechorot (Fast of 1st Born); Erev PESACH.
Jesus was crucified about 9 AM – 3 PM. He was removed from the Cross and placed in a tomb before the Annual Sabbath began. He was raised from the dead after 3 evenings and 3 mornings on the morrow after the Weekly Sabbath.
4/4 Thursday 15 NISAN 3790 PESACH; [Annual Sabbath.] Feast of Unleavened Bread. (7 Days)
4/5 Friday 16 NISAN 3790
4/6 Saturday 17 NISAN 3790 [Weekly Sabbath]
V. 15 And you shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the Sheaf of the Wave Offering; 7 Sabbaths shall be complete:
V. 16 Even unto the morrow after the 7th Sabbath ye shall number 50 Days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering. (i.e. The Church)
4/7 Sunday 18 NISAN 3790 [Morrow after the Sabbath]; Sheaf Waved; He Lamb Offered,
Jesus Resurrected. [OMER 1]
4/8 Monday 19 NISAN 3790. [OMER 2]
4/9 Tuesday 20 NISAN 3790. [OMER 3]
4/10 Wednesday 21 NISAN 3790. [OMER 4] [Last day of Feast of Unleavened Bread.]
4/11 – 4/30 = 20 Days. [OMER 5 – 25]
5/1 – 5 /26 = 26 Days. [OMER 25 – 50]; Wednesday 12 IYYAR – Sunday 8 SIVAN.
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB
4/3 Wednesday 14 NISAN 3790 Ta’anit Bechorot (Fast of 1st Born); Erev PESACH.
Jesus was crucified about 9 AM – 3 PM. He was removed from the Cross and placed in a tomb before the Annual Sabbath began. He was raised from the dead after 3 evenings and 3 mornings on the morrow after the Weekly Sabbath.
4/4 Thursday 15 NISAN 3790 PESACH; [Annual Sabbath.] Feast of Unleavened Bread. (7 Days)
4/5 Friday 16 NISAN 3790
4/6 Saturday 17 NISAN 3790 [Weekly Sabbath]
V. 15 And you shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the Sheaf of the Wave Offering; 7 Sabbaths shall be complete:
V. 16 Even unto the morrow after the 7th Sabbath ye shall number 50 Days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering. (i.e. The Church)
4/7 Sunday 18 NISAN 3790 [Morrow after the Sabbath]; Sheaf Waved; He Lamb Offered,
Jesus Resurrected. [OMER 1]
4/8 Monday 19 NISAN 3790. [OMER 2]
4/9 Tuesday 20 NISAN 3790. [OMER 3]
4/10 Wednesday 21 NISAN 3790. [OMER 4] [Last day of Feast of Unleavened Bread.]
4/11 – 4/30 = 20 Days. [OMER 5 – 25]
5/1 – 5 /26 = 26 Days. [OMER 25 – 50]; Wednesday 12 IYYAR – Sunday 8 SIVAN.
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB

07-11-2009, 03:03 PM
That could mean either one of two things: that the first sheaf is to be waved on the first day of the week, or it is to be waved on the day after the special rest day of the seven days of unleavened bread. Since verse 15 goes on to count seven weeks to the feast of weeks, also on the day after the seventh sabbath, when there is no special rest day, I have concluded that Leviticus 23:11 refers to the day after the regular Sabbath, so that the kohen waves the first sheaf on the first day of the week. I wonder what gives Rabbi Yisroel the confidence to state: "No it isn't." - Thomas DGW
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Very astute!
I wish I thought of that!
V. 16 Even unto the morrow after the 7th Sabbath ye shall number 50 Days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering. (i.e. The Church)
18 NISAN ~ 7 APRIL Sunday (Morrow after the Sabbath)
Seven Sabbaths:
1) 24 NISAN ~ 13 APRIL Saturday
2) 1 IYYAR ~ 20 APRIL Saturday
3) 8 IYYAR ~ 27 APRIL Saturday
4) 15 IYYAR ~ 4 MAY Saturday
5) 22 IYYAR ~ 11 MAY Saturday
6) 29 IYYAR ~ 18 MAY Saturday
7) 7 SIVAN ~ 25 MAY Saturday
8 SIVAN ~ 26 MAY Sunday 50th Day SHAVUOT (Feast of Pentecost)
[The Morrow after the 7th Sabbath]
The Holy Ghost fell on the early church and the Believers spoke in tongues, prophesied, and glorified God.
V. 17 Ye shall bring out of your habitations 2 wave loaves of 2/10 deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the Firstfruits unto the LORD.
These 2 loaves represent Jew and Gentile with their sins forgiven; they are the ‘Bride of Christ,’ the Firstfruits of the harvest.
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB
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Very astute!

I wish I thought of that!
V. 16 Even unto the morrow after the 7th Sabbath ye shall number 50 Days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering. (i.e. The Church)
18 NISAN ~ 7 APRIL Sunday (Morrow after the Sabbath)
Seven Sabbaths:
1) 24 NISAN ~ 13 APRIL Saturday
2) 1 IYYAR ~ 20 APRIL Saturday
3) 8 IYYAR ~ 27 APRIL Saturday
4) 15 IYYAR ~ 4 MAY Saturday
5) 22 IYYAR ~ 11 MAY Saturday
6) 29 IYYAR ~ 18 MAY Saturday
7) 7 SIVAN ~ 25 MAY Saturday
8 SIVAN ~ 26 MAY Sunday 50th Day SHAVUOT (Feast of Pentecost)
[The Morrow after the 7th Sabbath]
The Holy Ghost fell on the early church and the Believers spoke in tongues, prophesied, and glorified God.
V. 17 Ye shall bring out of your habitations 2 wave loaves of 2/10 deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the Firstfruits unto the LORD.
These 2 loaves represent Jew and Gentile with their sins forgiven; they are the ‘Bride of Christ,’ the Firstfruits of the harvest.
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB

07-12-2009, 01:22 AM
The plan of salvation is so beautiful so beyond anything man could come up with, so divine in its nature and each item pointing toward the Christ as Jesus, Gds only son. I would like to share this but please forgive me in my attempt to share something so beyond myself, just what glimpses of the truth that I get, I share with you to encourage you. I see Jesus in everything about the Old Testement.
Take the tabernacle ( I studied this along time ago and only remember some of it) with its inner room of Most Holy and its outer room of Holies I believe they point to Jesus as the way to the Father, Jesus being the Holy room and Gd being the Holy of Holies room. The fact the sacraficial lamb is sacraficed outside these rooms is relevent for Jesus was also sacraficed outside the city of Gd. The candle stick representing The Father, The son, and the Holy Spirit. The story in the OT of the prophet who set out the donkey to instruct them and how the donkey stopped at the rock, that rock being Jesus Christ. The fact Jesus died with two sinners, one on each side, he wasnt on the left or right, but in the center, showing us again again this is Gds plan not mans for we know in our hearts the significance of right and left and center, referring to heaven and earth and the spance between them, the right hand and the left, the heavenly realms and the earthly realms. The plan of salvation screams out all through out the Old Testement that Jesus is the Messiah. Abraham who was asked by Gd to offer his son but could not and Gd provided a way of escape shows me that even then Gd knew His plans for us through Jesus, for He did what Abraham wanted to do but could not do because Gd held him back through the angel who provided the ram. The fact Gd had to provide blood sacrafice for sins shows us the need for a Saviour who is crucified.
But I dont presume to be the one to show you it must be by the spirit of Gd that you see Jesus as Messiah and no one can give you the spirit of Gd but Gd himself.
12 reasons you believe in Jesus, how prophetic, a great thread to share with us. I can think of thousands upon thousands of reason I believe in Jesus as Messiah. I just have to look up to the heavens and I see them. The stars alone cry out his name. Gd bless you for this thread.
Take the tabernacle ( I studied this along time ago and only remember some of it) with its inner room of Most Holy and its outer room of Holies I believe they point to Jesus as the way to the Father, Jesus being the Holy room and Gd being the Holy of Holies room. The fact the sacraficial lamb is sacraficed outside these rooms is relevent for Jesus was also sacraficed outside the city of Gd. The candle stick representing The Father, The son, and the Holy Spirit. The story in the OT of the prophet who set out the donkey to instruct them and how the donkey stopped at the rock, that rock being Jesus Christ. The fact Jesus died with two sinners, one on each side, he wasnt on the left or right, but in the center, showing us again again this is Gds plan not mans for we know in our hearts the significance of right and left and center, referring to heaven and earth and the spance between them, the right hand and the left, the heavenly realms and the earthly realms. The plan of salvation screams out all through out the Old Testement that Jesus is the Messiah. Abraham who was asked by Gd to offer his son but could not and Gd provided a way of escape shows me that even then Gd knew His plans for us through Jesus, for He did what Abraham wanted to do but could not do because Gd held him back through the angel who provided the ram. The fact Gd had to provide blood sacrafice for sins shows us the need for a Saviour who is crucified.
But I dont presume to be the one to show you it must be by the spirit of Gd that you see Jesus as Messiah and no one can give you the spirit of Gd but Gd himself.
12 reasons you believe in Jesus, how prophetic, a great thread to share with us. I can think of thousands upon thousands of reason I believe in Jesus as Messiah. I just have to look up to the heavens and I see them. The stars alone cry out his name. Gd bless you for this thread.
07-24-2009, 04:07 AM
The fact Gd had to provide blood sacrafice for sins shows us the need for a Saviour who is crucified. - HOPE7
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Indeed, in order to be Saved, we have to obtain Jesus' life. We must be
"Born Again." The life we inherited from Adam will die. For the wages of sin
is death. The gift of God is Eternal Life, through Jesus Christ our LORD.
God's plan is mentioned from the beginning. [GENESIS 3:15]
"And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman, [satan vs. Mother Zion]
And between your seed (the unrighteous) and her Seed. (Jesus and the
Righteous)
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel." [Calvary]
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB
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Indeed, in order to be Saved, we have to obtain Jesus' life. We must be
"Born Again." The life we inherited from Adam will die. For the wages of sin
is death. The gift of God is Eternal Life, through Jesus Christ our LORD.
God's plan is mentioned from the beginning. [GENESIS 3:15]
"And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman, [satan vs. Mother Zion]
And between your seed (the unrighteous) and her Seed. (Jesus and the
Righteous)
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel." [Calvary]
JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB
