Sugarman
You are right that I don't understand your believes yet.
As far as traveling on sabbath the Torah doesn't tell you not too. The distance requirement comes from the oral law. Today we drive cars that have engines so they light a fire. So starting your car can be seen as breaking sabbath.
As far as the clothes goes you only can not combine wool and linen. Most clothes aren't made with this combination anyways. I spend several days trying to find outfits that would brake this rule and couldn't. In asking my Jewish friends they said some times suits have both wool and linen.
Some of the other commandments may be hard to keep because of either lack of community or location. Many of the laws were meant to be kept in Israel and before we freeze to death on sabbath we should consider that. But not being able to kept one or two laws doesn't reduce my joy for the law. While many people watching me add laws to my observance told me I was doing unnecessary work and not allowing myself to be free, my close friend who saw how I practiced told me that I just like to party and that's why I was attached to Judaism. It's really not work or a burden when you love God and the Torah.
Sugarman
You are right that I don't understand your believes yet.
As far as traveling on sabbath the Torah doesn't tell you not too. The distance requirement comes from the oral law. Today we drive cars that have engines so they light a fire. So starting your car can be seen as breaking sabbath.
As far as the clothes goes you only can not combine wool and linen. Most clothes aren't made with this combination anyways. I spend several days trying to find outfits that would brake this rule and couldn't. In asking my Jewish friends they said some times suits have both wool and linen.
Some of the other commandments may be hard to keep because of either lack of community or location. Many of the laws were meant to be kept in Israel and before we freeze to death on sabbath we should consider that. But not being able to kept one or two laws doesn't reduce my joy for the law. While many people watching me add laws to my observance told me I was doing unnecessary work and not allowing myself to be free, my close friend who saw how I practiced told me that I just like to party and that's why I was attached to Judaism. It's really not work or a burden when you love God and the Torah.
Exodus 16:29 (New King James Version)
29 See! For the LORD has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.”
Sugarman
You are right that I don't understand your believes yet.
As far as traveling on sabbath the Torah doesn't tell you not too. The distance requirement comes from the oral law. Today we drive cars that have engines so they light a fire. So starting your car can be seen as breaking sabbath.
As far as the clothes goes you only can not combine wool and linen. Most clothes aren't made with this combination anyways. I spend several days trying to find outfits that would brake this rule and couldn't. In asking my Jewish friends they said some times suits have both wool and linen.
Some of the other commandments may be hard to keep because of either lack of community or location. Many of the laws were meant to be kept in Israel and before we freeze to death on sabbath we should consider that. But not being able to kept one or two laws doesn't reduce my joy for the law. While many people watching me add laws to my observance told me I was doing unnecessary work and not allowing myself to be free, my close friend who saw how I practiced told me that I just like to party and that's why I was attached to Judaism. It's really not work or a burden when you love God and the Torah.
just to warn you james tells anyone who decides to be under the law that if they fail In ONE POint of It then fail all of it.
Sugarman
You are right that I don't understand your believes yet.
As far as traveling on sabbath the Torah doesn't tell you not too. The distance requirement comes from the oral law. Today we drive cars that have engines so they light a fire. So starting your car can be seen as breaking sabbath.
As far as the clothes goes you only can not combine wool and linen. Most clothes aren't made with this combination anyways. I spend several days trying to find outfits that would brake this rule and couldn't. In asking my Jewish friends they said some times suits have both wool and linen.
Some of the other commandments may be hard to keep because of either lack of community or location. Many of the laws were meant to be kept in Israel and before we freeze to death on sabbath we should consider that. But not being able to kept one or two laws doesn't reduce my joy for the law. While many people watching me add laws to my observance told me I was doing unnecessary work and not allowing myself to be free, my close friend who saw how I practiced told me that I just like to party and that's why I was attached to Judaism. It's really not work or a burden when you love God and the Torah.
Did jesus fulfilled Torah you did not answer that.
if you believe we are under The law of moses then why does paul write in the singular format we are not under the regulations The commands of the law? Why does the apostles elders when they had there big meeting in acts 15 which was The First Big christian meeting, which The meeting topic was mainly about The law and what we are under from it? Why did they choose only some laws and ending?
acts 15 is all about what The gentiles and the apostles going against The idea gentiles are under the law in the whole.
acts 15
28For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to lay upon you any greater burden than these indispensable requirements:
29That you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from [tasting] blood and from [eating the meat of animals] that have been strangled and from sexual impurity. If you keep yourselves from these things, you will do well. Farewell [be strong]!
also I do not know if my other post is going to be posted But I try to put it in less words.
1. every time when paul said we are not under the law in regulation and commands he talks in singular LAW which to me means we are not under it in the Whole.
2. acts 15 is all about what the gentile should practice according to the law.
Read it.
Sugarman
First Exodus 16:29 The context suggest that the going out refers to collecting manna. I believe there is also a command to shut the gates but I wasn't able to find it. While the exodus text would better be applied to collecting things on sabbath, not going out side of your gates would apply to doing things outside of a community environment that keeps sabbath. My Sabbaths are more enjoyable when I can do this. However, my husband doesn't keep sabbath in the same way, so for me, going to Temple helps me to keep this command better. The law was never intended to be keep with out considering your own circumstances. This is why some of the laws did not go into effect until they reached the land.
Sugarman
First Exodus 16:29 The context suggest that the going out refers to collecting manna. I believe there is also a command to shut the gates but I wasn't able to find it. While the exodus text would better be applied to collecting things on sabbath, not going out side of your gates would apply to doing things outside of a community environment that keeps sabbath. My Sabbaths are more enjoyable when I can do this. However, my husband doesn't keep sabbath in the same way, so for me, going to Temple helps me to keep this command better. The law was never intended to be keep with out considering your own circumstances. This is why some of the laws did not go into effect until they reached the land.
For exodus your right but did jesus fulfill all of the Law?
I still wonder if you Believe christians are not the law of Moses in the whole.
Sugarman
I understand the term "under the law" to mean "require to keep the law". I am not keeping it out of requirement but out of love and choice.
It is not James that uses this term but Paul.
I have no problems with Paul I do not believe he is telling people it is bad to kept God's laws.
As far as Acts 15 goes it is from reading the context that I form my understanding.
Frist: Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command [them] to keep the law of Moses.
This was not optional circumcision but required. It could happen as God convinced the individuals it was to happen all at once for all.
Then immediately after the decision they said why it was ok.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
So do churches today teach Moses if not perhaps they have taken this exception for the gentiles too far.
Sugarman
I understand the term "under the law" to mean "require to keep the law". I am not keeping it out of requirement but out of love and choice.
It is not James that uses this term but Paul.
I have no problems with Paul I do not believe he is telling people it is bad to kept God's laws.
so your saying You keeping it by your own choice even thou scripture says we are not require to keep it in the whole?