One strong argument rises up when teaching how the antichrist will bring an end to sacrifice"[ Daniel 9:27] This argument is ; 'sacrifices'. In Christianity; Yeshua has become the final sacrifice for sin. Many Christian Scholars teach that G-d would never allow a Temple to be built that would innitiate; Animal Sacrifice's, let alone; PETA! In Judaism the "red heifer" will signify the Meshiachs return! There have been 9 sacrifices of the "red heifer" since Moses sprinkled the blood on the people while speaking the Mitzot, and declaring the Covenant speaking; Behold "The blood of the Covenant", which the Lord has made for you concerning all these Words[ Exodus 24:8].Ezekial 44 through 48 Ezekial describes the description of the Temple that will built in Jerusalem during the Millenial reign of the Meshiach. Part of the rituals includes the the sacrifices of certain animals[Parah Adumah][ Ezekial 40; 41], but the sacrifices will not be offerred for removal of sin. They will be gift offerrings , and memorial sacrifices, though religious Jews who study Torah would allow for animal sacrifice to resume, based on the the Mitzot of Torah. As the Jews offer sacrifice in the middle of tribulation; the antichrist will seize control of Jerusalem, causing the sacrifice to cease. When Muslims hear of the antichrists move into Jerusalem, and seizes , and liberates the Temple Mount from the Jews, and kills the two witnesses; The event will be celebrated in Nations across the world, as the antichrists mimicks their Mahdi!. It almost sounds like something that could happen present day E.U./U.S./U.N. Land for Peace;, doesn't it?[continued]
The Bible teaches there will be 2 Tribulation witnesses, and they will have power to "shut Heaven" That the rain will stop in the days they prophecy, and they will have power over the waters as to turn them to blood , as Moses did to Egypt, and strike plagues, as often as they desired[ Revelation11:6] Many Theologians believe for this reason , Moses is the 2nd. witness! [ Matthew 17;3] also states Elijah , and Moses appeared to Yeshua concerning His sufferrings. but Moses died , and went to dust[ physically], yet Elijah did not die,and was carried into Paradise as though G-d had a special purpose for him? The main argument to that theory of Moses being one of the 2 witnesses with other scholars is that it interferes with scripture[Hebrews 9:27] as it is appointed for men to die once![Genesis 3:19].But; I think of my life; I died once ,and now I will have to die again! [ perhaps?], and what of Lazarus [4 days dead?] , and rose again, to die again!,Elijah raised the dead, as did Moses, and other Great men of the Bible;and men today in the Fathers name;but yet, had I not died , and been reborn through that death to believe; I would not be here with my testimony of the True Words of the Father I have seen! ;;Yehoshua! Sent from the Father; The G-d of Israel, and by seeing this, I cannot know anything else,but believe , and know for every answer Judaism presents; There is a answer to that question!, whether I know the answer or not; My Faith knows there is! So I am not in full agreement of that theory either, other than it seems improbable G-d would allow Moses to die 3500 years ago in an unmarked grave, and then be Ressurected as a witness from the dust to turn around and die 42 months later a 2nd. time!So if not Moses; Could it be Enoch?[continued]
Enoch is spoken little of , and only in reference to, in the Old Testament, but actually there is a 120 page scripture of Enoch that was not added to the KJV, because of Enochs highly controversial interpretations , and description of pre-edemic creation; The stars, and constellations, names of fallen angels,and mating with people, and producing the giants, as Goliath, and others,fallen angels cast into the stars of Heaven, and interjects other planets , and the world as a celestial body; round, and placed around the sun! ; descriptions of Hell, and the valley of sleep ;for the dead to arise in Restoration, to 1/4 of the book dedicated to the;Prophesy of; Son of Man! It must have been G-d , as in his day; people regarded the earth as no larger, and flat that you could see with your eyes, and was quickly rejected by the KJV compliations of ancient writings of Israel. He even spoke of Israel, and the valley of Megido, before they existed! Truly we have walked from another important manuscript,rejected from an imposed doctrine upon Early believers in the G-d of Israel!, and Yeshua! Enoch ; I believe is the second witness in the Tribulationand Elijah the 1rst.!!Enoch and Elijah were the only two men not to die once!, both men went to Heaven, both men were prophets, both alive when Zachariah saw his vision, Enoch gave the first prophesy of the Meshiachs return, and the coming judgement [ Jude 14-15], both men fulfilled Hebrews 9:27, Elijah is predicted to return before the terrible day[ Malachi 4:5], Enoch a gentile, Elijah a Jew, and Elijah will produce judgement against his enemies![ continued]
In Revelation 11;It speaks of the 2 witnesses, in End of Age.And there was given unto me a measuring staff, and the Angel said ; Rise , and neasure the Temple of G-d, and the Alter, and measure them that worship there!but do not measure the outer court , because it is given to the Gentiles to walk upon for 42 months[ Daniel 8:10][Ezekial 40:17,20][Psalms79:1][Revelation 12:6, 13:5] And G-d shall give power to those 2 witnesses, and the 2 witnesses will prophesy 1203 days, clothed in sackcloth.{ sackcloth is a black garment of goatshair worn to signify mourning]These 2 witnesses will mourn for approximately3 years and a few months in Jeusalem. They are described as 2 candlesticks, burning with the Holy Spirit of G-d, 2 olive trees - pertaining to geneology of G-d and Israel; [Enoch spoke of Israel, and even foretold of Megido!]. It is said, that any man who would hurt them, that fire would proceed from their mouths, and devour the enemy. [The Word of G-d]and if any man hurt them, so will he be hurt in the same manner. Do you know the condemnation Christians get today, with enacted hate crime legislation, forcing it's hand on the church to silence it, and the rejection we sustain, just for speaking the word. We are called bigots, for believeing in only one way to Heaven, and are even blocked from some Christian organizations for speaking of the roots of our own Faith!; Israel! I think how much in End Ages , people will rejoice when the Word of G-d is temporalily silenced, and these 2 witnesses killed, especially Islam, as we see bodies mutilated, and beheaded for rejecting Islamic beliefs.They will have power over rain , and turn the rivers into blood, and when their testimony finished, the beast rises and slays them. What a heroe he will be to many, that do not know G-d![ continued]
Where is Enoch and Elijah? Did God whisk them to heaven or did they die like all other humans?
Many Bible readers have been mystified by the "disappearance" of these personages. Some believe they are evidence that those who die righteously go to heaven. Of course this is a big misconception, so what did happen to Enoch and Elijah?
Let's begin with Enoch. There are only two Scriptural passages that mention him by name. The first one is found in the book of Genesis, chapter 5 and verse 24. Let's see how the various Bible translations render this verse (Genesis 5:24):
"And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. " (New King James Version)
"Then Enoch walked with God, and he was no longer here . . . " (New American Bible)
"And Enoch continued to please God and was not found, for God translated him" (Septuagint).
"lived close to God, and then disappeared . . . " (Moffet Translation)
Other translations render the verse "he disappeared for God took him".
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Now lets take a look at the second scripture that mentions Enoch by name:
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had his testimony, that he pleased God. " (Hebrews 11:5)
The most significant aspect of these two Scriptures is the fact that neither of them say Enoch went to heaven.
The word rendered translated in the Greek, μετατίθημι, is Strong's Concordance #3346. It means to transfer, transport, exchange, change sides, carry over, change or remove.
We read in John 3:13 :
"And no man has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of man who is in heaven. "
Also Acts 2:34 :
"For David did not ascend into the heavens but he said himself: 'The Lord said to My Lord, 'Sit at My right hand, till I make your enemies Your footstool.' "
Both Enoch and David were long dead when Jesus and Peter made those statements. This is positive proof that neither Enoch nor David were taken to heaven, at least the "heaven" where God resides
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What about Elijah? Let's look at 2 Kings 2:1, 11 :
"And it came to pass, when the Lord was about to take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal. Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven " (2Kings 2:1, 11)
What few people realize is that the Bible discusses three types or kinds of heaven. Briefly, the first heaven is the atmosphere or sky that surrounds the earth, the second heaven is the physical universe that has stars, planets and so on, and the third type of heaven is where God's throne resides. For a fuller explanation of this topic please see our short article What are the three heavens?
Which heaven then is 2 Kings 2 verses 1 and 11, mentioned above, referring to?
The word translated heaven in 2Kings 1, 11 comes from the Hebrew word shamahym (שׁמה שׁמים, Strong's Concordance #8064). It is the plural form of the Hebrew word shameh which means to be lofty, the sky, the visible arch in which the clouds move. Its certainly not the heaven where God's throne is.
When Jesus (John 3:13) and Peter (Acts 2:34) state that no person has gone to heaven, the heaven they are referring to is the one containing God's throne. Therefore, when Hebrews 11:5 states that Enoch was "translated" or moved, it does not mean that he was somehow scooped up by God to live forever with him near his throne. It means that Enoch was moved or taken through the earth's atmosphere (sky), to a physical location on the earth the Bible does not name, so " . . . that he should not see death." This is the same thing that happened to Elijah.
God, in His wisdom, decided to physically transport Enoch and Elijah away from where they were originally located so that someone (or something) would not be able to physically kill them at a certain time. They continued to live the same kind of fleshly existence you or I do after they were moved until they died just like any other human on planet earth. This is in agreement with other scriptures that state all men (humans) must die a physical death:
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: " (Hebrews 9:27, KJV)
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge [Greek, epignosis, full knowledge] of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time [in their own eras or time periods].”
1 Timothy 2:3–6
That “due time” will be the “great white throne” judgment 17 when tens of billions — perhaps as many as 40 billions — of people will know Christ as their God, their Mediator, their Savior, and their Ransom for sin — just as you know Him today. Get ready, be prepared, and study, study, study (2 Timothy 2:15). Though death is an enemy (1 Corinthians 15:26), “even so in Christ shall all be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:22).
You will witness and participate in every event of “the ages of the ages”:
(1) Christ’s Second Coming;
(2) the Millennium and its glory;
(3) the dissolving of the old creation;
(4) the creation of the new heaven and earth;
(5) the descent of New Jerusalem; the “great white throne” judgment; and
(6) the final reconciliation of all to God the Father.
Even then, as I have written before, that only will be the beginning ...
“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither has entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love him.”
1 Corinthians 2:9
yes robert. In 2nd Samuel 7;12 nathen spoke to David saying "And when thy days be fufilled , and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers , I will set up thy seed after thee , which shall proceed out of thy bowels , and I will establish his kingdom.------------death is referred to as sleep for as in sleep we will awake some day. also in the new testament ;Thessalonians 4;13 -17 .Paul said " But I would not have you to be ignorant , brethren , concerning them which are asleep , that ye sorrow not , even as others which have no hope .For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again , even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him . For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep . For the Lord himself shall desend from heaven with a shout , with the voice of the arch angel , and with the trump of God ; and the dead in Christ shall rise first : Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds , to meet the Lord in the air ; and so shall we ever be with the Lord .
yes,sorry Robert ,i tried to reply to your post on Elijah and Enoch and was running out of room .basicly i was saying i think it possible for God to have them reapear or dissapear just as he had Gideon's angel do . and I agree about the Heavens .( so , when you had a death experience did you have a vision where you was looking down upon the earth from the air ? ( if you don't mind me asking ).
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