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But live according to jewish law and tradition.

Aren't you, in fact, a Judaistic Christian?

Judaic Christian seems to separate G-d into two G-d's. Jesus said; To obey the laws, and traditions.He only came to fufill, not to change[ Deuteronomy18:18]He brought the New Covenant written upon the heart, and the promise fulfilled of the Twelve tribes; Eternal Israel, free from the curse of sin and death.Heaven on Earth. The work is yet unfinished and will get worse before it gets better . I guess it's like plastic surgery; You look really bad, before you look great! I guess G-d is the ultimate plastic surgeon.I hope to relate this analogy to the Judaic wealthy mall shoppers.[I hope humorous metaphors are allowed?] I always heard it's better to laugh than cry. Shalom

It all depends on what is in your heart.  God knows that.

The Bible says something about avoiding arguements about the meanings of words.

When people say they are a messianic Gentile beleiver they reallly mean christian but say it so as not to get a bad knee jerk reaction from Jewish people they share that with.

I started a thread on; End of the world ;Chad; not actually Chads world, but actually; End of Age, kind of apocalyptic when it's finished. We sit upon the threshold of the world tearing itself apart, and Israel in great turmoil, though they shall survive. An Old / New Kingdom of G-d arises, and the beast as well. The next few years will curb your searching for apocalyptic information. Though when these signs are present, look up ,for our redemption draws near. I  just watched ; Blackhawk down. I somehow think they found a mixed rejoicing of being rescued; seeing death, and pain, and life, mixed together., and some enduring!I pray for Israel's safety in the times ahead. Shalom.

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Here is my question that. If you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior but are not baptized you will go to Hell?

I believe baptism is something that is saved after the one accpet Christ not something to be done to get saved.

But think of this what Kind of spirit filled christian will not want  baptism?

Did the thief on the cross next to Christ get "baptized" by water after he believed on Christ while being crucified next to him? (Luke 23:40-43; etc.) I hardly think the Roman guards took him down to do so.

Man is only saved by faith in the blood of Christ. And outside water does not wash away anyone's sins or change anyone's spirit/heart. Only the blood of Christ pays for man's sins, and only the removal of the spirit of sin within man by the Holy Spirit, and the birth of the Holy Spirit in saved man's heart instead, truly changes anyone.

And all saved receive the permanent birth of the Holy Spirit. And then such men are righteous and do good by nature, not by any written commandment/instruction.

Just as God does good. God does not do good by trying to follow and keep written laws, rules, commandments and instructions. God does good because he is good, his heart/spirit is good, his Holy Spirit; halleluiah. And God requires the same thing from man.

And this is what the Bible truly says and reveals, when properly interpreted and discerned through the Holy Spirit; halleluiah.

God bless.

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Doug L.

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Doug L.
[/quote= Robert]To be baptized, is to be washed in the blood of the lamb, by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Washing in the blood is allegorical, as accepting the Death of Yeshua, for Life!, as Israel acknowledges Her soldiers that have shed blood for her freedom, the bride; Washed in the freedom of blood, but much more![ The freedom of eternal life in the G-d of Israel, freed from the curse of sin and death!Baptizm by water is a outward act to show you have accepted this gift. Many have been baptized that did go to hell, and many that believed ,of free will, and accepting the Baptizm of the Holy Spirit, washed thier hearts into righteousness upon which they could follow Him, and love Him are given a place G-d's Kingdom to share as the children of Abraham.Blessings