I don't endorse this website, because some of their doctrine is incorrect (they teach against water baptism complimenting Spirit baptism, and they teach against a pre-incarnate Messiah against the plain face of Scripture -- two big strikes).
This reprinted article from a 19th century Unitarian (only the
Father is truly God, others including the Son are so by extension by His authority like the angels) makes some interesting points. I've only found 2 errors:
http://www.truthortradition.com/modules....amp;sid=12
Any comments?
I don't endorse this website, because some of their doctrine is incorrect (they teach against water baptism complimenting Spirit baptism, and they teach against a pre-incarnate Messiah against the plain face of Scripture -- two big strikes).
This reprinted article from a 19th century Unitarian (only the
Father is truly God, others including the Son are so by extension by His authority like the angels) makes some interesting points. I've only found 2 errors:
http://www.truthortradition.com/modules....amp;sid=12
Any comments?
It seems this article haves some Jehovah witness doctrine into believeing jesus is not The supreme being but more like a god.
infact that whole article can Be busted when in The OT we find Oh God your throne is forever and ever that is imply to The father but is also imply to the Son in the NT.
Also Titus 2:13 calls jesus The God of us
Titus 2:13: “The great God and Savior”: tou megalou theou kai sôtçros hçmôn Christou Içsou, lit. “the great God and Savior of us Christ Jesus.” Note: in 2 Peter 1:1 is the same grammatical construction (i.e., article-noun-kai-noun): tou theou hçmôn kai sôtçros Içsou Christou, lit. “the God of us and Savior Jesus Christ (cf. 2 Pet. 1:11; 2:20; 3:2, 18; 2 Thess. 1:12; see Gk.) See above.
Hebrews 1:8: “But of the Son He [the Father] says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER. . . . ” (ho thronos sou ho theos, lit. “the throne of thee the God. . . . ”). For more exegetical information on Hebrews 1:8 (esp. on the vocative theos) GO HERE.
http://christiandefense.com/jw_deity.htm#jesusisgod
I would say anything article that starts out with jesus is not Almighty God is doing to be full with errors and many more misunderstanding of the scripture.
sugarman,
Hebrews 1:8 was the biggest error on that list, the Son is called GOD by the Father. This also challenges Oneness theology which says the Son is only flesh. (They are disproven and simply change the subject or hurl insults, so there's no point even debating the issue really -- objectively speaking it's usually very poor quality of discussion on their part).
The usual Unitarian response to Hebrews 1:8 is that humans are called El Gibbor in the Tanakh, the Hebrew word for 'god' is applied to human rulers and the judges of Israel.
It's true, and Yeshua uses this defense himself, when he quotes Psalm 82 which states that "ye are gods" and clarifies that he only claims to be the Son of God.
If there wasn't so much whopping evidence in favor of a Triune God (Abraham=Father, Isaac=Son, Jacob=Spirit) etc., I'd be certain this group was correct that only the Father was God in the ultimate sense (1 Corinthians 8:6, 11:3, Revelation 1:1)
Titus 2:13
Who is the blessed hope and manifest glory of God?
None other than Jesus Christ. The blessed hope and manifest glory of God are not God Himself.
Shalom,
Christopher
Chrikaren,
Actually my messianic Rabbi shot me down in flames for using Titus 2:13 to support Yeshua's divinity. Our congregation uses "The Complete Jewish Bible" which dramatically downplays Yeshua's divinity in Romans 9:5, Titus 2:13, etc.
He DOES teach in person that Yeshua is the physical, human form of God. But he does not support the KJV rendering of Titus 2:13.
This was a huge issue for me, I sat under KJV-only preaching for a long time. I almost left the congregation after having my children there for 2 years.
The Rabbi even said "I checked the Greek in the Leningrad Codex and the word God isn't in the Greek of Titus 2:13".
The Leningrad Codex is Old Testament only! This really upset me? Was he lying or did he make a mistake?
I the end, I decided to let the Holy Spirit decide and I've been praying directly from the Complete Jewish Bible ever since to see if God will back it up. I can say I've been very blessed, and even changed for the better, being diligent in prayer from that Bible.
sugarman,
Hebrews 1:8 was the biggest error on that list, the Son is called GOD by the Father. This also challenges Oneness theology which says the Son is only flesh. (They are disproven and simply change the subject or hurl insults, so there's no point even debating the issue really -- objectively speaking it's usually very poor quality of discussion on their part).
The usual Unitarian response to Hebrews 1:8 is that humans are called El Gibbor in the Tanakh, the Hebrew word for 'god' is applied to human rulers and the judges of Israel.
It's true, and Yeshua uses this defense himself, when he quotes Psalm 82 which states that "ye are gods" and clarifies that he only claims to be the Son of God.
If there wasn't so much whopping evidence in favor of a Triune God (Abraham=Father, Isaac=Son, Jacob=Spirit) etc., I'd be certain this group was correct that only the Father was God in the ultimate sense (1 Corinthians 8:6, 11:3, Revelation 1:1)
can you point out what problem from the site you have?
when I read it I came to the conclusion that This person is making the arugment that hebrews 1:8 haves the father calling the son God.
sugarman,
Hebrews 1:8 was the biggest error on that list, the Son is called GOD by the Father. This also challenges Oneness theology which says the Son is only flesh. (They are disproven and simply change the subject or hurl insults, so there's no point even debating the issue really -- objectively speaking it's usually very poor quality of discussion on their part).
The usual Unitarian response to Hebrews 1:8 is that humans are called El Gibbor in the Tanakh, the Hebrew word for 'god' is applied to human rulers and the judges of Israel.
It's true, and Yeshua uses this defense himself, when he quotes Psalm 82 which states that "ye are gods" and clarifies that he only claims to be the Son of God.
If there wasn't so much whopping evidence in favor of a Triune God (Abraham=Father, Isaac=Son, Jacob=Spirit) etc., I'd be certain this group was correct that only the Father was God in the ultimate sense (1 Corinthians 8:6, 11:3, Revelation 1:1)
wait are you talking about the site you posted or what I did that is in error about hebrews 1:8?
Titus 2:13
Who is the blessed hope and manifest glory of God?
None other than Jesus Christ. The blessed hope and manifest glory of God are not God Himself.
Shalom,
Christopher
The only problem with This paul directly refers Jesus as to being The Great God. Yout trying to change the text from Jesus is The great God which paul is saying to Jesus is not God just manifest God glory.
Romans 9:5
God Himself gave authority to Jesus over all things, but God blesses even Christ Jesus. The subjects of Romans 9:12 are those Israelites that have been blessed by God and that Christ came through them.
Titus 2:13
Christ is the glory of God, and is our blessed hope. Christ will be unveiled by God when God unveils him to us. Only the Father knows when that will be. When God has put all things under the son's feet, then the son will offer the spoils of victory back to God. 1Corinthians 15:28
Shalom,
Christopher