10-15-2009, 11:49 AM
10-16-2009, 08:08 AM
The first thing He says is ''Let there be light'' that is just 1 number more, than the 231 options between the Hebrew letters that are possible, starting with A and B, that forms Ab, meaning Father... after all the word-options where created he said, ''Let there be Light'' which worth in numbers is 232, just 1 step higher.
After that The Almighty said that a lot was good...
And after that The Almighty spoke more often also to Moses himself. and also to the nation Israel, and we saw His voice.
He spoke to Noach (genesis 9 is just 1 example) etc. etc. etc.
Just to many places to mention.
After that The Almighty said that a lot was good...
And after that The Almighty spoke more often also to Moses himself. and also to the nation Israel, and we saw His voice.
He spoke to Noach (genesis 9 is just 1 example) etc. etc. etc.
Just to many places to mention.
10-16-2009, 10:25 AM
G-d speaks everywhere in the Torah, in some places by inspiring Moses, in some places by inserting direct quotes.
10-16-2009, 02:03 PM
Avraham Wrote:
Hello everyone,
Where does G-d speak in the Torah (Five Books of Moses)?
best regards,
Avraham
well Did not God gave moses The words on what to say? When moses about about to go to Pharaoh moses reaction was like i do not know what to say! God answer I will tell you what to say.
10-17-2009, 01:01 PM
Thanks to everyone for responding.
The Five Books of Moses are a narative. Nowhere in them does G-d speak. It is the prophet Moses telling a story. He is saying that G-d said such and such.
best regards,
Avraham
The Five Books of Moses are a narative. Nowhere in them does G-d speak. It is the prophet Moses telling a story. He is saying that G-d said such and such.
best regards,
Avraham
10-17-2009, 01:30 PM
Yetzirah231 Wrote:
The first thing He says is ''Let there be light'' that is just 1 number more, than the 231 options between the Hebrew letters that are possible, starting with A and B, that forms Ab, meaning Father... after all the word-options where created he said, ''Let there be Light'' which worth in numbers is 232, just 1 step higher.
After that The Almighty said that a lot was good...
And after that The Almighty spoke more often also to Moses himself. and also to the nation Israel, and we saw His voice.
He spoke to Noach (genesis 9 is just 1 example) etc. etc. etc.
Just to many places to mention.
It doesn't actually say: "Let there be light". Hebrew is a Semitic language while English is an Indo-European language. The best you can do is a paraphrase.
It says:
"become light" äéä àåø it was a commandment not a suggestion. Not being picky but trying to make the point that one has to be careful in these matters.
best regards,
Avraham
10-18-2009, 09:48 AM

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The Five Books of Moses are a narative. Nowhere in them does G-d speak. It is the prophet Moses telling a story. He is saying that G-d said such and such.
So there is no solution... In those days the ex-Jewish family Efraim (Philips) didn't invent the audiotape yet. Nor did they give Moshe a Kosher Norelco (Philips) shaver... or a T.V. so that we could SEE His voice again. (If T.V.'s can ever show His voice)...
So what is it according to you? The Almighty is a narative... or does He Speak through the letters of the Alephbet?
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Hebrew is a Semitic language while English is an Indo-European language
Yihiye beseder... What is it that you say it is 'NOT' Let there be Light...
It will be in order is Yihiye beseder, and even it might also mean You have to be in order. And what will be in order is allready o.k. in eternity.
So also Yihiye Or, means so many things indeed.
I only just don't understand how you claim what it might NOT be translated too. So being carefull is also knowing better that in Hebrew, 1 sentence means 72 things.
Become Light is just 1 of the translations, Thanks anyway of reminding.
10-18-2009, 11:22 AM
Avraham Wrote:
The Five Books of Moses are a narative. Avraham
Hi Avraham;
I want to ask you a question about the first verse of Genesis, is it? I think there is a belief that it represents the Name of the LORD. Have you ever heard of such a thing?
I just wanted to include that the believer is told that wheresoever two or more of you are gathered in my name, I am there, in your midst.
I cannot believe you have simply put the LORD on the shelf with the rest of the book? Can you not understand that the LORD lives? And it is being called by His name, as His people, that we all have eternal life.
He speaks, today, while it is still called today, and do not become tangled up in rejecting and turning away from the calling of His people by His name.
He speaks. Yes.
anyway, it is nice to see you throwing out the trick question posts.
bye for now,
kimberly
10-18-2009, 11:08 PM
"The Five Books of Moses are a narative. Nowhere in them does G-d speak. It is the prophet Moses telling a story. He is saying that G-d said such and such."
Avraham, if you already are sure you know the answer, why are you asking the question?
Just consider one thing: If Moses said, "God said ...", but God really did not say ..., then Moses was not a prophet, but a liar. Is that what you believe? I believe Moses was a true prophet.
Avraham, if you already are sure you know the answer, why are you asking the question?
Just consider one thing: If Moses said, "God said ...", but God really did not say ..., then Moses was not a prophet, but a liar. Is that what you believe? I believe Moses was a true prophet.
10-19-2009, 08:29 AM
“Avraham, if you already are sure you know the answer, why are you asking the question?”
The short answer is that I wanted to know if you knew. Apparently not.
“Just consider one thing: If Moses said, "God said ...", but God really did not say ..., then Moses was not a prophet, but a liar. Is that what you believe? I believe Moses was a true prophet.”
Whether Moses was a “true prophet" or not was not the point I was trying to make. We can both agree that there is a difference between saying G-D said rather than Moses says G-D said. Do you believe in the words of men? I thought Christians rejected them?
best regards,
Avraham
The short answer is that I wanted to know if you knew. Apparently not.
“Just consider one thing: If Moses said, "God said ...", but God really did not say ..., then Moses was not a prophet, but a liar. Is that what you believe? I believe Moses was a true prophet.”
Whether Moses was a “true prophet" or not was not the point I was trying to make. We can both agree that there is a difference between saying G-D said rather than Moses says G-D said. Do you believe in the words of men? I thought Christians rejected them?
best regards,
Avraham