JFJ Forums - JUDAH IS GONE!!!

HI,

YOU SEE IN CHAPTER 2 OF ISAIAS some things?

1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.

in verse 1, he is talking about things that are concern to 'judah'. that be the southern kingdom, the place where jerusalem and david , (bethelehem). he says, "concerning judah".  do u see that? so how can this message of scripture be anything but a message to... judah?

now, since there is no more judah, this message is old and spent. the new state is not judah, its israel and so this verse means nothing to modern judaist jews. they cannot hope on this next verse for anything!

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
nations Mal 1:11, Matt 8:11, Luke 13:29, Acts 10:45, Acts 11:18, Acts 14:27, Rom 15:9, Eph 3:6, Rev 5:9, Rev 7:9, Rev 14:6

there can be no mountain established in judah after 70 a.d.. there can be no temple built on it after 70 a.d. do you see that words in the verse, 'last days' ?  what sense does it make that yahweh is going to establish his mountain and his temple in the 'last days'?   it doesnt because this 'last days' is not in rabbis future, its the past before judah was totally conquered and renamed. since judah is gone, and this message is to judah, then the mountain and the temple are established already. it must be....if isaias is a prophet. do u see that?  the big question for the judaist would be...where is the mountain and the temple that cant neither be "hurt or destroyed"?

i put my jesus glasses on and i can see the mountain and the temple. I SEE IT.  it just didnt pop in there, IT WAS PUT THERE.  judaist cant see it but its there! and so....isaias IS a prophet, the prophecy IS true, and i believe this jesus and god must exist! i know he does because jesus showed him to me.

its reality. the rabbi can read scripture. why he doesnt tell you what im showing you? is he protecting you?  i dont tell you something, i show you something. rabbi is a bonedome!  if i was a judaist, id have to look at this real close and pick the rabbis bone to pieces.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. law Isaiah 42:4, Isaiah 42:21, Micah 4:2, Matt 5:18, Romans 3:31, Heb 8:10

i see that this is true also. in the last days of judah, after all else was destroyed, this mountain remained and was, and could not be destroyed and isaias 11.9 is also true. but the other zany thing is that isaias calls the people to go up this new mountian and THE GOD OF JACOB WILL TEACH THE PEOPLE HIS WAYS??????   what the heck is this??? i thought torah was the way. what way is going to be taught here?

11. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

isaias says it will be built in 2.2 and it is built in 11.9 but where the heck is it???  sampson, find that mountain!!!!!

i give u a clue, the MOUNTAIN from where the Rock that was hewn " by no human hand" was a virgin. and this water that im typing fell from above the firmament and flows down the mountian like a river into the great sea. see the last phrase in 11.9 just above, that im participating, 'covering' the sea with water.

DANiel water.... 2. 34 thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the MOUNTAIN without human hands...... 35.....and the stone was cast down and became a great MOUNTAIN that filled the whole earth.

dan water2.28 But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;

there is that 'last days' stuff again. this is because daniel and isaias are talking about the same thing, dont you think?

dan water 2.44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

isaias water....[color=purple] 10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
And Matt 12:21, Rom 15:12
root Isa 11:1, Rev 5:5, Rev 22:16

u worship what u dont understand but we worship what we understand.

david Wrote:

HI,

u worship what u dont understand but we worship what we understand.

Amen David, you are a genius and sometimes your humor is very creative and intoxicating! In my opinion, You win every argument hands-down!

But pardon me David, You also need to be more like jesus who made himself NOTHING in order to save us!

As Apostle Paul says let us tell truth in love. Without love everything comes to zero!!!

YBIC,
nick

Lectio_Divina Wrote:

[b]Amen David, you are a genius and sometimes your humor is very creative and intoxicating! In my opinion, You win every argument hands-down!

i dont win the argument. jesus wins. the word is not from me. i try to be true to the word as i can. im no genius.

albert einstein was a genius. he said that all one needs to do to see that which other didnt see is to "put themselves in the shoes of god and ask themselves how is such a thing made?" einstein saw the atomic structure before the learned men opened the atom.

i do the same, by faith.....i put on my jesus glasses on and i seek to find that which jesus said i would find if i seek it. its always there. its a reality that i just havent found....... until i find it.

Lectio_Divina Wrote:

But pardon me David, You also need to be more like jesus who made himself NOTHING in order to save us!

i can go for being a bit more like jesus. tell me how to do that? you see something about me that i dont see about myself?

i dont agree that jesus made himself nothing. i think i know what you are saying but the word makes him a something, a somebody. they didnt kill him because he was a nobody. jesus silenced the mouths of the scribes and the pharisees. the word made them speechless. it was the word that does it. its the word that does it. its the w-rd that does it. i AM nothing...just a voice in the cyberness.

thanks for the support. sometimes i think im just talking to the computer. i think that when we agree each other, we should witness to each other so others can know that some opinions are shared by many more than appears.

david

David
I am typing in a teaching response: Jesus taught "in " the mountain.
He was not as sedimentary as you sitting there typing like Jesus. Ha ha
The ignious response would be praise God in His Holy Mountain.....
and then the scientist would dig it up and metamorphosize the evidence.
I commend you especially for your stand concerning the "times of the gentiles being fufilled". I saw Jesus in his robes on the steps of my old church, coming down the steps to meet me, it was dark, I could not see skin color I knew it was Jesus he had on blue robes....like the kind of sea shell they are digging up now to rebuild Solomons temple.... I must put on the garment of praise for the spirit of heavinesss sometimes when I find out that every body does not think exactly as I. Yet I see.

Mom bought a book on the dead sea scrolls . I know fragments from Isaiah were found including people being raised from the dead (Isaiah 61). And fragments of John 18 were found. This is real interesting for me. Why would people hide these documents in a cave inside a mountain? As the scriptures declare...truth shall spring forth from the ground.....maybe literally. You see this mountain of the Lord's house may be entirely bigger than what our sometimes feeble mind can contain.
Thank God in Christ Jesus He makes certain things plain. :- D <{{{{{<