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I have a question. Maybe someone can help me understand this because it is very confusing to me doing the research. We all have heard that Elijah was carried up to Heaven as it says in 2 Kings 2:11 And at the time I wanted to know who was the King at the time he went up. Prior to him going to heaven King Ahab, king of Israel died. Jehoshaphat was the king of Judah at the time and his son Jehoram was the next king of Judah. Then Ahaziah son of Ahab became the king of Israel. But it seems he died right away and his brother Joram (Jehoram) became king. This all took place at the same time of Jehoram son of Jehoshaphat became king. See what I see so far. But it gets more confusing still. In 2 Kings 3:1 Joram ruled Israel while Jehoshaphats ruled Judea.  Now while this is going on Elijah went to heaven already! In 2 Kings 8:16 the two kings with the same names ruled at the same time. Still with me? Now get this, Ahaziah son of Jehoram ruled over Judea in 2 kings 8:25 and he was related to Ahab as well! Now Jeru kills Joram and Ahaziah!

Ok here is my question! In 2 Chronicals 21:12 Elijah is in the picture writing a letter to Jehoram son of Jehoshaphat?  Are we like ten years after he went to heaven? In the next chapter 22: Ahaziah is king and years later Jehoram will be king.

I have read that Elijah did write the letter AFTER he left to Heaven somewhere, and I can not remember where. I am not sure if I agree with it. Has anyone ever heard of this what I am talking about?

I know what you're talking about and I know Elijah didn't go up to the Heaven of God's Throne, as Yeshua clearly said "No man has ascended into Heaven" (John 3:13). He should know! Clearly, Elijah was merely transported from one place on Earth to another, through the sky (the first heaven - earth's atmosphere), like Philip the evangelist in the Book of Acts, lived out his life and died. Elijah is mentioned in Hebrews 11 where it says, "These ALL died, not having received the promise."

Where are Enoch and Elijah?

It seems clear that Elijah was not transferred to heaven. He represents a class that will partake of the divine nature. Elisha took over his position.

Joh 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven, but he who descended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven.

Be Blessed.

I totally agree Elijah did not go to or through the Heaven of God's Throne but was transported from one place on Earth to another where he lived out his life and died, awaiting the First Resurrection.

All Christians partake of the divine nature and those who endure to the end will take on the divine nature completely at the First Resurrection, for

1 John 3

2... we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

2 Peter 1:4

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Man Questions Whether We'll Be Angelic Or Divine

Thank you for your answers. I thought I was going crazy. I did read The web page on Enock and Elijah. It was very interesting. I felt that was what the word of God had preached. That no one is in heaven untill the rescuraction. But after reading that web page. I started to ponder why then God has said that I am the God of the living and not the dead. If all are dead untill Jesus comes again. When he was talking about Abraham and his children when he was talking to Moses.

I'm glad you see that the Bible clearly teaches nobody is in Heaven but God the Father and Yeshua (besides holy angels). Now please study some more and see nowhere does God promise us Heaven as the reward of the saved. Yeshua is coming back to reign on Earth and prepare it for the Father (to whom He will deliver it) who will come down from Heaven to Earth with the New Jerusalem.

Contrary to the Babylonian Mystery religious cult of TRADITIONAL Christianity, "Heaven" is going to be established right here ON EARTH where true Christians receive our crown and reign with Yeshua as a Kingdom of God-Beings. Why don't so-called Christians believe Yeshua? How clear can He make it? "THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH." And nobody but Yeshua has been born again yet. We're born again as divine Spirit-Beings at the resurrection when Christ returns - not a second before.

Revelation 21:1-4

1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea [the fire that purified the earth evaporated it]. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, COMING DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away." [This alone proves the Bible teaches eternal punishment - not eternal punishing].

I encourage all to read the rest of the chapter without traditional blinders and be amazed to discover that the Pearly Gates and Streets of Gold are going to be right here ON EARTH!

Born Again and Heaven and Hell




Because in God's eyes, they are as good as alive, resurrected, since God calls forth those things that are to be as if they already were. That's how Yeshua also said that believers would never "die" - He is the Resurrection.

Agreed, I personally believe in the two compartment theory of Hades used in Luke's gospel. In which case Elijah {and the man on the cross next to Yeshua} would have gone to Abrahams bosom. They would have remained there until Messiah ascended "leading captivity captive".
Only explanation that works for me.

Elijah the person and "Elijah" the class [type] are different and distinct...Elijah obviously died before Christ paid the ransom price, as well as John the baptist. These were never promised a heavenly calling but an earthly one.
John the baptist represented the "Elijah" class [type] of the Bride of Christ which are to be in heaven...Y'shua spoke of the "Elijah" who IS to come ...signifying the elect (144,000)( Joint-heirs)

Mat 11:11  Most assuredly I tell you, among those who are born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptizer; yet he who is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he.  
Mat 11:12  From the days of John the Baptizer until now, the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.  
Mat 11:13  For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.  
Mat 11:14  If you are willing to receive it, this is Elijah, who is to come.  
Mat 11:15  He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

Mat 11:11 - Not risen a greater -- The most highly honored of all the prophets.

Therefore he will share among the highest honors that will come to the ancient worthy class.

Great in the sense that he that rules his own spirit according to the principles of the divine Word is greater than he that taketh a city. (Prov. 16:32)

But he was not great in the eyes of man: never a guest at the palace of Herod, but a prisoner; not an esteemed orator, but "a voice crying in the wilderness"; not arrayed in purple, but in camel's hair.

John the Baptist -- The last of the prophets and the last of the "house of servants." To him was committed the honorable service of directly announcing the Savior; he discharged his duty with dignity.

None of the prophets was his superior.

Baptism is valid even if the baptizer is not of the Kingdom class, though an elder or consecrated person would be preferable.

He that is least -- The humblest one.

There will be some least and some greater in the Kingdom.  In the kingdom -- The spiritual phase of the Kingdom.

The election of the Gospel age.

The spirit-begotten Church, joint-heirs with Christ in the Kingdom.

Of heaven -- God's callings and elections are definite, positive, separate and distinct, as the various wheels in a great machine are separate and distinct from each other, while they all cooperate together in the work for which the machine is constructed.

Is greater than he -- John was the last of the faithful under the Jewish dispensation.

John tells us that his joy and privilege was not to be of the Bride, but to be a friend of the Bridegroom and to introduce him.

Reckoned as members of the house of sons, while the prophets belong to the preceding house of servants.

Does not imply that John was disappointed. His cup of blessing being full, and never having been begotten of the holy Spirit, he will not be able to appreciate blessings higher than his own.

The operation of God's spirit on the prophets was so different than on the Church that the humblest Christian may know more of God's plan than the greatest prophet.

God had promised him earthly perfection while he had promised the bride of Christ heavenly perfection. John will come forth as a perfect human being, the reward of his faithfulness.

The least one in the heavenly phase shall be greater than the greatest in the visible, earthly phase of the Kingdom.

Only the blood-justified could be invited to the High Calling, and John died before the sacrifice was completed.

"God having provided some better thing for us." (Heb. 11:40)

Because from the time of Christ, but not previously, the prize of joint-heirs with the Lord is open to his followers.

As Christ was to have the pre-eminence in the Kingdom it was necessary that he should be the first member of it.

Enoch and Elijah went to Heaven. Read about it in the Complete Jewish Bible.

Goy........

I have that bible ......Where did you find that Enock and Elijah are in Heaven in the Complete Jewish Bible?