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RayBurghen Wrote:

    ANNE SAYS:

"A digression: As a woman, it always bothered me that God spoke to Abraham but never Sarah. She was chosen as well,..."
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The Covenant was established with Abraham; and G-D said, "Sarah
thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed, and thou shalt call his name
Isaac (Laughter): and I will establish my Covenant with him for an
everlasting Covenant, and with his seed after him."
Because Ishmael was also Abraham's seed, G-D heard him and
blessed him and would make him a great nation, but the Covenant
He would establish with Isaac.
Sarah caused all the trouble in the first place, not believing G-D,
that a 90 year woman (past the ways of a woman), could bear a
son, so she laughed. Then she went on to fulfill the prophecy in her
own way by letting her husband, Abraham, sleep with her servant,
Hagar. [Some times we think we know better than G-D.]
Then Abraham wanted Ishmael to live before G-D.
Then discontent rose between Hagar and Sarah.
Trouble, trouble, trouble.
  Where is the seed of Abraham today? Judah kept her identity,
but the 10 Tribes of Israel got lost in the world.
Jesus said that He came only for the lost tribes; that He would
not give the children's bread to the dogs.
But the woman of faith said that even the dogs eat the crumbs
from their Master's table.
Jesus recognized her great faith and granted her wish.
So it is the children of faith who become the seed of Abraham,
not just those by blood. The children of faith will be gathered
by the Gospel. Abraham believed G-D and it was accounted to
him as righteousness.

SHALOM!
  Ray   Razz





Abraham laughed as well, though; but did let Sarah influence him too much.
Love the reference to the Syro-Phonecian woman, Ray. She's one of my favorites: bold and humble at the same time, with a persistent faith. Oh, to be more like her! Yes, she beautifully demonstrates the audacity and the supremacy of faith.

Okay, I've been thinking a lot about the pracitcal implications of all this. I don't know about 2012, but it wouldn't surprise me: worldwide food shortages, an energy crisis, a mortgage crisis, an exponential increase in natural disasters, Islamic terrorism, the vulnerability of Israel, and Russia and Iran making nice with each other (has anyone read Ezekiel 38 lately?). Everything is falling into place. Of course, Josiah's repentance and obedience gave Judah another 40-years before judgment fell, and that's always a possibility, but I don't see anyone even remotely resembling King Josiah on the horizon today.

I believe terrible persecution is coming to Christians in the U.S., and judgment. And I believe it is soon, even as I pray for more time. So what are God's people to be doing?

It is not unreasonable to store food, water, and supplies if it is done prayerfully and with the intent to share and minister to those around us. But more than that, I think God's people need to be on our faces in prayer. The old-timers called it "tarrying": spending time seeking God's face, listening for His voice, and soaking in His Word. When people's hearts fail them for fear, we will need to be serene and confident. I don't know about you, but I'm not there yet.

I also think boldness is the order of the day: a holy boldness to share the love of Jesus Christ. Time is running out, and there is no exit in hell. We are His voice, His hands, His feet. I feel more compelled than ever to be about the Father's business.

Blessings and peace,
Anne
jgrbal Wrote:

I believe terrible persecution is coming to Christians in the U.S., and judgment. And I believe it is soon, even as I pray for more time. So what are God's people to be doing?


"[I]s coming"? Please take no offense, but Christians have been persecuted for a while, and the persecution escalated with FDR; long story short.
GoyOfY'shua said:

    "Abraham laughed as well, though; but did let Sarah influence him too much."
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Abraham laughed down in his heart, though; Perhaps for joy and not
disbelief. Perhaps Sarah's offer was a bit much. You know how weak
men are when it comes to you women?

SHALOM!
RAB  Lol
jgrbal Wrote:

I believe terrible persecution is coming to Christians in the U.S., and judgment. And I believe it is soon, even as I pray for more time. So what are God's people to be doing?
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GoyOf Y'shua answered:

"[I]s coming"? Please take no offense, but Christians have been persecuted for a while, and the persecution escalated with FDR; long story short.
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Wasn't Anne referring to Ezekiel 38 and the coming war with
Iran (Persia), and company?

SHALOM!
Ray   Redface
RayBurghen Wrote:

jgrbal Wrote:

I believe terrible persecution is coming to Christians in the U.S., and judgment. And I believe it is soon, even as I pray for more time. So what are God's people to be doing?
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GoyOf Y'shua answered:

"[I]s coming"? Please take no offense, but Christians have been persecuted for a while, and the persecution escalated with FDR; long story short.
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Wasn't Anne referring to Ezekiel 38 and the coming war with
Iran (Persia), and company?

SHALOM!
Ray   Redface


We're basically already at war with Iran; a war over oil, nuclear weapons, and differences in religion-and-state seperation and republicanism and democracy.
  "I also think boldness is the order of the day: a holy boldness to share the love of Jesus Christ. Time is running out, and there is no exit in hell. We are His voice, His hands, His feet. I feel more compelled than ever to be about the Father's business."

Blessings and peace,
Anne
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Indeed!
Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of G-D, G-D abides in him,
and he in G-D. And we have known and believed the love that G-D
has for us.
G-D is love, and he who abides in love abides in G-D, and G-D in him.
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have
BOLDNESS in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this
world.
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because
fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect
in love.
We love Him because He first loved us.
V.21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves
G-D, MUST love his brother also.
[l JOHN 4:15-19]

SALEM!
Ray  Cheesygrin
ANJA ANDREAS WROTE:

"GAL 33:19 What then is the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the seed should come to whom the promise has been made."
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The LAW  AM 2668 (BC 1384) + 1,380 years = AM 4048 (BC 4),
the SEED (Jesus); FAITH.
Abraham AM 1948 (BC 2104) + 720 years = AM 2668 (BC 1384),
the LAW.
So we see Abraham was justified without the LAW, and was given
the Faith of Jesus because he believed in the LORD. [GEN 15:6]
Then Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar her maid, the Egyptian, and
gave her to husband Abram to be his wife, after Abram had dwelt
10 years in the land of Canaan.
[GEN 16:3]
Now if we take it from the COVENANT, AM 1948 + 75 years =
AM 2023 + 10 years = [AM 2033]; Hagar conceives. She gives birth
to Ishmael in AM 2034 (BC 2018); Abram is 86 years old. [GEN 16:16]

  When Abram was 99 years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and
said to him, "I am Almighty G-D; walk before Me and be blameless.
And I will make my Covenant between Me and you, and will multiply
you exceedingly."
V.5 ... your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father
of many nations...
V.8 "Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in
which you are a STRANGER, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting
possession; and I will be their G-D."
V.10 "This is My COVENANT which you shall keep, between Me and
you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you
shall be circumcised; and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of
your foreskins, and it shall be the sign of the COVENANT between
Me and you."
V.12
"He that is 8 days old among you shall be circumcised..."
[GEN 17:1-27] [Note: The #8 is the # of Jesus.]
It is an outward sign of the cutting off of sin in the heart.

"But My COVENANT I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall
bear to you at this time next year."
Abraham AM 1948 (BC 2004) + 99 years = AM 2047 + 1 year =
AM 2048 (BC 2004); Birth of Isaac.
[GEN 17:21]

Abraham was 99 years old when he was circumcised in the flesh
of his foreskin. [AM 2047 (BC 2005)]
And Ishmael his son was 13 years old when he was circumcised
in the flesh of his foreskin. All on the same day. [AM 2034 + 13
years = AM 2047]
[GEN 17:24-27]

Isaac was 8 days old [a type of Jesus], when he was circumcised.

The LAW AM 2668 (BC 1384) + 1440 years = AM 4108 (AD 56);
the Church at Galatia. [SALVATION BY FAITH]

The 1440 or(1440 x 100) is the Spiritual number of the GOSPEL;
whereby 1/3rd of the world or 2,000,000,000 people will be saved.
Joshua (Jesus) AM 2608 + 1440 = AM 4048 (BC 4); Jesus.


SHALOM!
RAY  Cheesygrin
GoyOfY'shua wrote: "[I]s coming"? Please take no offense, but Christians have been persecuted for a while" and . . .

"We're already at war with Iran over republicanism and democracy."

No offense taken. You're right on about the persecution. I've read that there are more Christians in the world who are being persecuted today than ever before. But, although Christians are increasingly marginalized in America, we haven't yet experienced full blown persecution. I believe that will change in the not too distant future, although I hope I'm wrong. And how ready do you think American Christians are for full blown persecution?

As to the current "war with Iran," I don't believe it's between republicanism and democracy; rather, it's democracy vs. fascism. Anti-semitism is and always has been endemic to Islam (which is kind of ironic, since most Muslim nations are semetic). And the rhetoric that's coming from Ahmadinejad today rivals Adolph Hitler. (Does it worry anybody that Obama wants to sit down and have a friendly chat with this guy?)

Ray, what's your take on Ezekiel 38? A couple of things stand out to me: that Gog will have "a hook in his jaw," indicating that Russia is going to be forced or pressured into participating in this attack. I suspect it's not going to be led by Russia at all, but by Iran. Also, where do you see this happening within the 70th week?

Blessings & peace,
Anne
"Ray, what's your take on Ezekiel 38? A couple of things stand out to me: that Gog will have "a hook in his jaw," indicating that Russia is going to be forced or pressured into participating in this attack. I suspect it's not going to be led by Russia at all, but by Iran. Also, where do you see this happening within the 70th week?"

Blessings & peace,
Anne
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                        THE 70th WEEK OF DANIEL

"Don't let anyone deceive you in anyway for the Day of the Lord will
not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of
lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction..." ll THES. 2

Begins: April 24, 2005  PESACH (Passover)
Ends    April 26, 2012  ISRAEL's INDEPENDENCE DAY  (Celebrated)

April 24 -30 = 7 Days [counting Pesach]
May            31   "
June           30   "
July            31   "
Aug.           31   "
Sept.          30   "
Oct.           31   "
Nov.           30   "
Dec.           31   "
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TOTAL       252 Days (AD 2005)

AD 2006     365 Days
AD 2007     365 Days
AD 2008*   362 Days
AD 2009     365 Days
AD 2010     365 Days
AD 2011     365 Days
             ________
TOTAL      2187 Days

AD 2012

January        31 Days
Feb.            29 Days
March          31 Days
April            26 Days
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TOTAL       117 Days
TOTAL       252  "
TOTAL     2187  "
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GRAND     2556 Days (1 Week of Years)
TOTAL

*Note: There are four (4) days in the year AD 2008 which are not
counted; the day the 2 Witnesses lay "dead." I.e. Oct. 5,6,7,8.
They were called to Heaven Oct. 9, 2008, on YOM KIPPUR.

CONTINUED


SHALOM!
Ray Eek
    

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