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  "So Noahs flood I have been told happened 4,400 years ago I have followed some of those dates but because of laziness I stopped at some point. I wouldn't mind access to all the working of these dates. thanks"
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Blessed be the Name of éÅùÑåÌòÇ HaMashiach of Natsareth -
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Death of Methusel
"His Death Shall Bring"
AM 687 + 969 = AM 1656   i.e. The Flood


THE FLOOD (1 year)               AM 1656 - AM 1657
                                         (BC 2396 - BC 2395)

ARPACHSHAD    35 years         AM 1658 - AM 1693
(Son of Shem)                      (BC 2394 - BC 2359)

SHELA             30 years         AM 1693 - AM 1723
(Son of Arpachshad)              (BC 2359 - BC 2329)

EBER               34 years         AM 1723 - AM 1757
(Son of Shela)                      (BC 2329 - BC 2295)

PELEG             30 years         AM 1757 - AM 1787
"Divided"                              (BC 2295 - BC 2265)
(Son of Eber)

REU                32 years         AM 1787 - AM 1819
(Son of Peleg)                      (BC 2265 - BC 2233)

SERUG            30 years         AM 1819 - AM 1849
(Son of Reu)                        (BC 2233 - BC 2203)

NAHOR            29 years         AM 1849 - AM 1878
(Son of Serug)                      (BC 2203 - BC 2174)

TERAH            70 years         AM 1878 - AM 1948
(Son of Nahor)                     (BC 2174 - BC 2104)

ABRAM          100 years         AM 1948 - AM 2048
(Son of Terah)                     (BC 2104 - BC 2004)

ISAAC             60 years         AM 2048 - AM 2108
(Son of Abraham)                 (BC 2004 - BC 1944)

JACOB                                 AM 2108
(Son of Isaac)                     (BC 1944)


ARPACHSHAD (100 years)        AM 1658 - AM 1758
(Son of Shem)                      (BC 2394 - BC 2294)

SHALOM!
RAB

ANNE WROTE

Okay, here's the really cool part: Ezekiel 10:19 describes the vision of the Glory leaving the temple by the East Gate
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    Let us return now to Ezekiel 1; Now it came to pass
in the 30th year, in the 4th month, in the 5th day
of the month...I saw visions of G-D.
V.2 This vision was in the 5th day of the month,
which was the 5th year of King Jehoiachin's captivity.

AM 3567 (BC 485) Jehoiachin captured.
+ 5 yrs.
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AM 3572 (BC 480)


It is 480 years to the year "0", the year Jesus was
supposed to be born. There is a 5 year error in the
calendar, so Jesus was born BC 4. His age at 30 is
in AD 26, the year Ezekiel saw Him. This is the year
the Gospel began. The year John was called out in
the 15th year of Tiberas. LUKE 3:1,23

AM 4064 (AD12) Tiberas
+ 14 yrs.
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AM 4078 (AD 26) The Gospel

[The four living creatures]

Each of the four had a face of a Man, and on the
right side each had the face of a Lion, and on
the left the face an Ox; each also had the face
of an Eagle.

* Man - "The Gospel according to Luke"
( Jesus the man; blood relative)

Lion - "The Gospel according to Mathew"
(Jesus the king; son of David)

Ox - "The Gospel according to Mark"
(The Covenant)

Eagle -"The Gospel according to John"
(Jesus' Diety-"The Word was G-D")


There are three things necessary for Redemption:  

1.) You have to pay the price.

2.) You have to be blood related.

3.) You have to WANT TO.


*Luke was a "saw-bones," who best to know "JESUS THE MAN."?

"SHALOM"!
RAB

I keep reading some of your posts over, Ray, and they are so hard for my small brain to assimilate. Some random thoughts:

I've heard your ideas on the four living creatures before: that they represent the four Gospels. Interesting; I'm not convinced but it's a definite maybe. I just got this on a prophecy list I subscribe to, which is similar to your take on things:

Man = Jesus, God's image
Lion = Kingly, Protector, Mighty, Powerful
Ox (Calf) = Sacrifice, Passive, Accepting, Sustaining, Nourishing
Eagle = All Seeing, Freedom, Lofty, Majestic, Powerful

Of course, while I concede there may be (and probably is) some symbolism relating to the four living creatures, I also believe them to be quite literal. (You know what an annoying stickler I can be on that point.)

I think the history of the 1967 war is fascinating, with enormous prophetic implications. And do you think there's any significance to the fact that the stock market crashed by 777 points this week on the eve of Rosh Hashanah? I have no idea, but it sure bears watching. In my humble opinion, judgment is at the door.

Blessings and peace,
Anne

Shalom jgrbal,

... and the door knob is rotating.

In Messiah.  Arley

NavyBlue wrote:

"... and the door knob is rotating."

Awesome!

"I think the history of the 1967 war is fascinating, with enormous prophetic implications. And do you think there's any significance to the fact that the stock market crashed by 777 points this week on the eve of Rosh Hashanah? I have no idea, but it sure bears watching. In my humble opinion, judgment is at the door."
                    
Blessings and peace,
Anne
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I WILL OVERTURN; OVERTURN; OVERTURN IT!

And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity
shall have an end,
Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown:
this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
I will OVERTURN, OVERTURN, OVERTURN, it: and it shall be no more, until he
come WHOSE RIGHT IT IS; and I will give it him. EZEK. 21:25-27

The First Millennium [overturned] or Kingdom

AM 2148 (BC 1904) Bethel "The House of G-D" [Israel, age 40]
+ 1000 years
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AM 3148 (BC 904) Solomon's Temple


The Second Millennium [overturned]

AM 2148 (BC 1904)
+ 1900 years
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AM 4048 (BC 4) Jesus, the Messiah, is born.

[The Messiah was rejected and crucified in AD 30.]

He is the Son of David, who was the true inheritor of the Kingdom.
Without the shedding of his blood, there would be no forgiveness of
our sins. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of G-D is eternal life
to those who love him and obey him.

Adam, the son of G-D, lost his eternal life, and could only pass a
Finite life down to us. (LK. 3:3)

... And I will put enmity between thee (the serpent) and the woman,
and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou
shalt bruise his heel. GEN. 3:15

To be "born again," (JOHN 3:3) is to take on Christ's infinite life.
We are saved by the Gospel. As far as election is concerned, Israel
is loved on account of the patriarchs, for G-D's gifts and his call
are irrevocable.

"The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away
from Jacob.
And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins."

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the
Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved... RO. 11:25-29
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The Third Millennium

SHALOM!
Ray  

The Third Millennium

AM 4048 (BC 4)
  + 1900 years
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AM 5948 (AD 1896) Christ takes the Throne in Heaven; Satan is cast out,
and denied access. "Woe to the earth and sea
because the Devil has come down unto you..."

AM 5948 (AD 1896)
     + 52 years [40+12=52]
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AM 6000 (AD 1948) [National Israel Restored]

AM 4122 (AD 70) Titus destroys Jerusalem
  + 1878 years
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AM 6000 (AD 1948)

Prophecy fulfilled: Israel was gathered in unbelief after 1,878 years of
Desolation. They only need to repent and accept Jesus as their Messiah.
See the parable of the "Fig Tree" in MATT. 24

AM 3444 (BC 608) [Fall of Kingdom of Israel]
  + 2556 years (7 Times) DAN. 4
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AM 6000 (AD 1948)

SHALOM!
Ray  

ANNE WROTE:
"And do you think there's any significance to the fact that the stock market crashed by 777 points this week on the eve of Rosh Hashanah? I have no idea, but it sure bears watching. In my humble opinion, judgment is at the door."

Blessings and peace,
Anne
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The only 777's I can remember is below.

LAMECH (age 777) AM 874   (BC 3178) GEN 5:25
"Captive"

Noah's Dad died 5 years before the Flood, AM 1651 (BC 2401).
Arpachshad was the 1st born 2 years after the [beginning] of
the Flood.
[AM 1658 (BC 2394)]
That is a total of 7 years between Lamech and Arpachshad.

Now the Tribulation, AM 6057 (AD 2005) - AM 6064
(AD 2012) is the same length of time both ending in birth:
the one; humanity, the other; the Kingdom, depending on Israel’s
repentance.

Then too, AM 1658 + 1900 years = AM 3558 (Daniel to Babylon)
We add his 490 year prophecy, 3558 + 490 = AM 4048 (BC 4),
the birth of Jesus.

Now if we add this 490 year prophecy to the birth of Arpachshad,
AM 1658 + 490 years = AM 2148 (BC 1904), the 40th year of
Jacob and the birth of the 1st Millennium. [Bethel]
[Jacob’s Ladder]

By adding another 1900 years to AM 2148, we have AM 4048 (BC 4), the birth of Jesus and the beginning of the 2nd Millennium.

Of course, another 1900 years brings us to AM 5948 (AD 1896),
the 3rd Millennium and Zionism. We throw in another form of the
480 Code (12 x 40), that is 52 (12 + 40), and we have the Restoration
of Israel, AM 6000 (AD 1948).

SHALOM!
Ray  

BURNING BUSH SAYS:

   "Yeshua DIED outside the camp, did He not? And as we pick up our cross and follow Him, I have also found that truly, to be absent from the body is to be present with the L-rd. Why it should surprise anyone I don't know, as I read somewhere that Paul was taught of the risen L-rd for 14 years in Arabia before he came to the disciples. Blessings to you".....BB
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Jabal al-Lawz (Arabic)

Is a mountain of volcanic origin located in northwest Saudi Arabia, 28 degrees 41 minutes
North, 35 degrees 18 minutes East, 2403 metres/7384 feet tall.
The name means “mountain of almonds.”

The Evidence
1) It is recognized as an archaeological site.
2) Crossing the Red Sea is a requirement to be Biblical. [The commonly recognized location
of Mt. Sinai is on the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula.]
3) There is a pile of boulders where cow drawings appear.
4) There is an underwater reef that spans the Red Sea at the suggested crossing point,
about 50’ below the surface. At this point on the peninsula there would have been no
escape from the Egyptian army, except the reef, once it was revealed by the wind.
5) The desert is a major requirement that exists at Jabal al-Lawz, but does not exist at all, at
the current site claimed to be Mt. Sinai.
6) Having the desert behind it that could fit the 2,000,000 people described in the Bible.
7) Being located in ancient Midian:
a.thus being in Arabia Petraea, and so agreeing with Josephus, Philo, and the Apostle Paul;
b.and, in common with the southern Levant, and Sinai Peninsula, is on the migration path of quail,  
c.while also not being in ancient Egypt or its dominions.
8) It has evidence of an ancient spring. (Cf. Meribah)
9) A large alter at the foot of the mountain has many calf drawings. (Cf. Golden Calf).    
These drawings suggest a connection with the story of the Israelites instructing Aaron to build a golden calf idol.
10) There is another man-made formation at the bottom of the mountain that appears to be a cattle shoot formed of stones, with a pit at the end. This too agrees with a Biblical description. It appears to be a sacrificial fire pit, as Moses noted. “at the foot of the mountain of G-D.”
11) There is a cave in the mountain, fitting the description of Elijah spending the night on Mt. Horeb.
12) There are large piles of rocks at the base. (the Biblical narrative states that the base
of Sinai was marked out). They were evenly distributed  along the base of the mountain
approximately 400 yards apart and do not seem  to have been the result of random rock slides.
13) The discovery of the remains of 18th Dynasty chariots in the Gulf of Aqaba nearby.  

My question brother Burning; When Paul was in Arabia for you say
14 years, do you think he spent the time at Jabal al-Lawz
(Mt. Sinai)?

"SHALOM!"
    Ray  

  13) The discovery of the remains of 18th Dynasty chariots in the Gulf of Aqaba nearby.  
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SIGNIFICANCE Of The WHEELS

It is of extreme importance to the dating of the Exodus and determining
which dynasty was involved. Ron Wyatt actually retrieved a hub of a
wheel which had the remains of 8 spokes radiating outward from it.
He took this to Cairo, to the office of Nassif Mohammed Hassan, the
director of Antiquities whom Ron had been working with. Mr. Hassan
examined it and immediately pronounced it to be of the 18th Dynasty
of ancient Egypt.

Mr.Hassan explained that the 8-spoked wheel was only used during
the 18th Dynasty.

Researching the Egyptian chariot, Ron soon found 4, 6, and 8 spoked
wheels, in the Red Sea, placing the Exodus in the 18th Dynasty
according to numerous sources.

Consider the Following:

Egyptian literary references to chariots occur as early as the reigns
of Kamose, 17th Dynasty, who took the 1st steps in freeing Egypt
from the Hyksos, and Ahmose, the founder of the 18 Dynasty.
(From "Observations on the Evolving Chariot Wheel in the 18th Dynasty"
by James K. Hoffmeier, JARCE#13, 1976)

SHALOM!
  Ray