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There are a few teachings from Christian organizations that cause tremendous damage to ones further knowledge of Gods truth.

Hell as a place of eternal torture

Would a loving and righteous God actually throw anyone into a fiery eternal existence? If so, He would be on a level worse than most people! We were born in sin because of Adam...but because of Christ all will be resurrected to be judged for their own sin...

Jer 31:29  In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Jer 31:30  But everyone shall die for his own iniquity: every man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.

Then anyone that refuses to be obedient will go to the "second death"..which is not a fiery torment in hell... but just plain gone as if they were never born...

If "hell" is a place of torment, then why would Job pray to go there after the torment he was already going through? (Sheol)

Job 14:12  So man lies down and doesn't rise; Until the heavens are no more, they shall not awake, Nor be roused out of their sleep.
Job 14:13  "Oh that you would hide me in Sheol, That you would keep me secret, until your wrath is past, That you would appoint me a set time, and remember me!

Job also alludes to the fact here that a person does not have an immortal soul! Another damaging teaching.

The Trinity...who knows how many have been hurt by this pagan teaching?

A proper view clears up so many apparent contradictions that are termed as a "Mystery" too hard for us to understand... Yahweh is not a God of confusion, it is because of closed mindedness and the "churches" believing that they know all there is to know and do not go on to higher knowledge.

If this sounds like I am pushing my own beliefs or starting discord...that is far from my intention... the hearers are responsible for what they hear and must decide whether it is of God.

It is also the responsibility of the one teaching to be sure of their teaching. As it is written:

Zec 11:17  Woe to the worthless shepherd who leaves the flock! The sword will be on his arm, and on his right eye. His arm will be completely withered, and his right eye will be totally blinded!"

1Ti 1:6  from which things some, having missed the mark, have turned aside to vain talking;
1Ti 1:7  desiring to be teachers of the law, though they understand neither what they say, nor about what they strongly affirm.

Mat 7:22  Many will tell me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?'  
Mat 7:23  Then I will tell them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.'  

~Only those will be recognized who have done the will of the Lord and who have no theories or works of their own whereof to boast.

My prayer is that these words do not stumble anyone but on the contrary...that they enlighten any that would receive them...

In Christ...Be Blessed Smile
one_called Wrote:

There are a few teachings from Christian organizations that cause tremendous damage to ones further knowledge of Gods truth.

Hell as a place of eternal torture
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Job also alludes to the fact here that a person does not have an immortal soul! Another damaging teaching.

The Trinity...who knows how many have been hurt by this pagan teaching?


"one_called",
Those teachings such as Hell, immortal and eternal souls, and the Trinity keep us from- not draw us to- paganism. Christian amd Messianic Jewish teaching only damage the credibility of the following:
  1. You, one_called
  2. Jack Lavictorie
  3. Chaim ben Yaakov
  4. shlomo
  5. Fletch
  6. shmelke
  7. dwain (cor517)

GoyOfY'shua Wrote:

one_called Wrote:

There are a few teachings from Christian organizations that cause tremendous damage to ones further knowledge of Gods truth.

Hell as a place of eternal torture
.......

Job also alludes to the fact here that a person does not have an immortal soul! Another damaging teaching.

The Trinity...who knows how many have been hurt by this pagan teaching?


"one_called",
Those teachings such as Hell, immortal and eternal souls, and the Trinity keep us from- not draw us to- paganism. Christian amd Messianic Jewish teaching only damage the credibility of the following:
  1. You, one_called
  2. Jack Lavictorie
  3. Chaim ben Yaakov
  4. shlomo
  5. Fletch
  6. shmelke
  7. dwain (cor517)



So you are the sole interpreter of scripture?...News to Peter the apostle when he wrote:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation
   What I interpret the scripture to mean or what I get from the Lord by revelation may not agree with your interpretation as in the Oneness of the Godhead versus your theory of the trinity.
   You should be very careful when it comes to making statements like the one above. A man once said something along the same lines about Jeremiah's prophesy and it cost him his life.  God is patient but the time of the Gentiles is over the Rapture is upon us and we are still fighting among ourselves.
I don't agree with all the above named say and they don't agree with all of mine but you Goy need to grow up.
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prophet Wrote:

So you are the sole interpreter of scripture?...News to Peter the apostle when he wrote:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation
   What I interpret the scripture to mean or what I get from the Lord by revelation may not agree with your interpretation as in the Oneness of the Godhead versus your theory of the trinity.
   You should be very careful when it comes to making statements like the one above. A man once said something along the same lines about Jeremiah's prophesy and it cost him his life.  God is patient but the time of the Gentiles is over the Rapture is upon us and we are still fighting among ourselves.
I don't agree with all the above named say and they don't agree with all of mine but you Goy need to grow up.
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prophet, Peter's admonition about private interpretations is not about one person's interpretation of scripture as opposed to another's.  Peter was talking about taking one prophecy and interpreting it alone, apart from other prophecy.

2 Peter 1 - 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.  17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.  18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

Peter is talking about how he and the apostles can be believed concerning the Lord Jesus.  Then, Peter emphasizes the truth of the word of God and how we are to use it for interpretation.  This is also a statement on how we can know the written word is true because of the authorship of the Holy Spirit.  Holy men [plural] spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit, and so all prophecy will agree.

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Peter says, Don't take one or a few verses, isolate them from the rest of scripture, and build thereon.  The Trinity theology complies with the admonition of Peter; Oneness and the Russellites ignore this because, as you demonstrate here, even this admonition is misinterpreted.

It is very post-modern to say to one another, who are you to say what is right?  We all make our interpretations, but only one interpretation is the correct one.  Peter illustrates what makes for a correct interpretation.
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