10-17-2007, 12:21 PM
You didn't wear out your welcome, but if you look at Matthew 1 and Luke 3, you will see that the Son of God (aka God the Son, Jesus of Nazareth) is this Jewish Messiah.
I may be naive.......but "Jewish Messiah"?
Generally "Jewish" derives from the southern kingdom of Judah in the territory of Judea. Generally these would be descendants of Judah, Benjamin and of course Levi and maybe Simeon. In reality post exile Judea had children from all the houses of Jacob as well as people from all sorts of nationalities and ethnic groups loyal to the G__ of Jacob.
Taking the Greek gospel literally, this Messiah(Christ) was raised in the Household of Judah, in the home of a direct descendant of David. The science of a "Son of G__" is not precisely defined. Would such a being be a human created "from no material matter" save a miracle. Would He be a person "formed from the dust" - "Ben-Adam"- a "Son of Man?". Would the child be formed entirely by a miracle in the womb or only conceived by a miracle??
Mary's cousins were priests in (formerly)Zebulon territory (not far from Jonah's home town) therefore Levites, perhaps direct descendants of Aaron?
The traditional Jewish Messiah, I would guess, would be a full "Ben-Adam" and a direct descendant (mother and father) from David (and probably Bathsheba?).
Who, then, is this Christ? Probably better left to the faithful and Academics to decide. But why (necesarily) long for "The Messiah" when history has given many (mortal) messiahs? True, perhaps no human being could have accomplished what Moses did, other than Moses himself. Which might be why the Almighty was so impatient and insistent the he be assigned to bring this huge family from enslavement to nationhood.
I hope I don't wear out my welcome.
just_visiting Wrote:
I may be naive.......but "Jewish Messiah"?
Generally "Jewish" derives from the southern kingdom of Judah in the territory of Judea. Generally these would be descendants of Judah, Benjamin and of course Levi and maybe Simeon. In reality post exile Judea had children from all the houses of Jacob as well as people from all sorts of nationalities and ethnic groups loyal to the G__ of Jacob.
Taking the Greek gospel literally, this Messiah(Christ) was raised in the Household of Judah, in the home of a direct descendant of David. The science of a "Son of G__" is not precisely defined. Would such a being be a human created "from no material matter" save a miracle. Would He be a person "formed from the dust" - "Ben-Adam"- a "Son of Man?". Would the child be formed entirely by a miracle in the womb or only conceived by a miracle??
Mary's cousins were priests in (formerly)Zebulon territory (not far from Jonah's home town) therefore Levites, perhaps direct descendants of Aaron?
The traditional Jewish Messiah, I would guess, would be a full "Ben-Adam" and a direct descendant (mother and father) from David (and probably Bathsheba?).
Who, then, is this Christ? Probably better left to the faithful and Academics to decide. But why (necesarily) long for "The Messiah" when history has given many (mortal) messiahs? True, perhaps no human being could have accomplished what Moses did, other than Moses himself. Which might be why the Almighty was so impatient and insistent the he be assigned to bring this huge family from enslavement to nationhood.
I hope I don't wear out my welcome.
<--- that's a smiley by the way!