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MORPHY'S_MAMA WROTE:

"Would be a Nazarene Judges 13:5; Amos 2:11"
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Judges 13:5 is in reference to Samson, a NAZARITE.
For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor
shall come on his head: for the child shall be a NAZARITE unto
G-D from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of
the hand of the Philistines.
v.7 ...Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now
drink no wine nor strong drink, neither eat any unclean thing:
for the child shall be a NAZARITE unto G-D from the womb to
the day of his death.
v.24 And the woman bare a son, and called his name Samson...

Now Jesus was called a Nazarene due to residence in Nazareth.
He was not a Nazarite.
"Nazarene" also became a derogatory term; another word for
"despised one."
All those prophecies describing Messiah as a "despised one" are
fulfilled in his being a Nazarene.
The Christians were called "Nazarenes" (ACTS 24:5) a
contemptuous appellation, as the followers of Jesus, whose
presumed descent from Nazareth stamped him as a false
Messiah.

Other Nazarites besides Samson include:
Samuel (l Sam. 1:11); John the Baptist (Luke 1:5).
The Apostle Paul fulfilled his Nazarite vow when he shaved
his head at Cenchrea (Acts 18:18), although according to
Law (Num. 6:9,18) and the Talmud the shaving of the head
was required to be done at the door of the Tenple.

"SHALOM!"
RAB Cheesygrin

RayBurghen Wrote:

MORPHEY'S_MAMA WROTE:

      "See His genealogy starting from faithful Abraham."
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The record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the Son of David,
the son of Abraham.
This genealogy follows the paternal line to Joseph, the husband
of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ,
through Solomon and King David.
There are 14 generations in all from Abraham to David.
David to the exile to Babylon, another 14 generations; and
14 generations fron the exile to Christ.
MATT. 1:17

Now Jesus himself was 30 years old when he began his
ministery in the 15th year of Tiberias Caesar, [AD 26].
His step-father was Joseph, the son of Jacob.
He was also the grand-son of Heli, Mary's dad.
Mary's genealogy is traced through Nathan to King David;
then to Adam, the son of G-D.
So Jesus' mother and father both can be traced to King David,
putting him in the royal line, and to Adam, giving him his
humanity.
LUKE 3:1-37

  We have a conflict between LUKE 3:35 and GENESIS 10:24.
The father of Shelah is Arphaxad and not Canaan.
Since GENESIS is from the Masoretic Text it is the inspired Word
of G-D. We have to determine what text LUKE was copied.
This would only affect Mary's line since her line goes all the way
to Adam.

Further proof:
THE SEMITES
...SHEM was the ancester of ALL the sons of EBER.
ARPHAXAD was the father of SHELAH, and SHELAH the father
of EBER.
GENESIS 10:21; 24

The spurious SEPTUAGINT reads "father of CAINAN, and
CAINAN was the father of ...

l CHRONICLES 1:13- 27

Canaan was the father of Sidon his first born, and of the
Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites, Hivites, Arkites,
Sinites, Arvadites, Zemarites and Hamathites.

The sons of Shem:
  Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
The sons of Aram:
  Uz, Hul, Gether, and Meshech.
Arphaxad was the father of Shelah,
and Shelah the father of Eber.

Eber had 2 sons; Peleg (divided), and Joktan.

Joktan's sons:
Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal,
Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah
and Jobab.

Shem, Arphaxad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor,
Terah and Abram (i.e. Abraham)

"Shalom!"
  RAB     Razz

RE:
Very informative. Thank You Ray.

JAKE 99 WROTE:

"The bow and arrows in my quiver were quite visable to the courthouse that sought to prosecute me when I stood before it and declared war 3 days after being arrested"
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He mocketh at fear, and is not affrighted; neither turneth he back from
the sword.
The quiver rattleth against him, the glittering spear and the shield.
He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth
he that it is the sound of the trumpet.
He saith among the trumpets,
Ha, ha; and he smelleth the battle afar off...
JOB 39:22-25

RAB
Lone_ranger

RayBurghen,

Indeed my weapons of war are different and proved invinceable in many courts. The sword in my mouth, shield that surounds me, bow and arrows that have never missed the target, laws that I automatically understand better than the judges and district attorneys, chess player mentallity mixed with superior athletic and intellectual ability. Your courts never had a chance and I told them that as soon as they started violating my rights as a child. Only one other man has been so disturbed by mans ways that he took the world on as I did and that was Jesus who the world defeated and crucified. When the world tried me in court and attempted to crucify me it backfired on the courts and the only thing they and I did with 2 years of legal battle was prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am the christ. Now it is carved in the stone of your Massachusetts law books that a man with a bow and arrows did challenge the courts and claim and prove to be the Christ right at the millenium. My refusal to pledge allegence to the US flag as an eleven year old as well as my refusal to learn about war and Capitalism in school are just a few of the hundreds of defiant moments of my life that I made sure were properly noted. I am almost always the most valuable player on any field of play so competitively there are few in my league and I have played all typical sports and games.

May God be with you jake99.

Now tell us how you intend to let the world know about you?

What are your plan to convince people and make humanity believe that your ways are God's way?

What's your "take-over" strategy?

Tanachreader:

"As the King of Israel Jesus went through what all Israel went through but was obedient as KING. Israel's King experience everything His people experienced. And he took their sufferings, their diseases and even their sins upon Himself."

RE:
My God, I'm not alone. How i relate...

Good post, thanks for sharing.

TO JOYOFY'SHUA

   RayBurghen Wrote:

So Jesus' mother and father both can be traced to King David,
putting him in the royal line, and to Adam, giving him his
humanity.
LUKE 3:1-37

  We have a conflict between LUKE 3:35 and GENESIS 10:24.
The father of Shelah is Arphaxad and not Canaan.
Since GENESIS is from the Masoretic Text it is the inspired Word
of G-D. We have to determine what text LUKE was copied.
This would only affect Mary's line since her line goes all the way
to Adam....

Well, blame Luke or the translators? What did Paul tell Timothy?

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I only use the NKJV and the Complete Jewish Bible versions unless I can't find or don't have them.

JOYOFY'SHUA
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Dave aka lambsev wrote:

"By the way I'm sure Ezekiel would tell you there is but ONE Gospel."

  Let us return now to Ezekiel 1; Now it came to pass
            in the 30th year, in the 4th month, in the 5th day
            of the month...I saw visions of G-D.
            V.2 This vision was in the 5th day of the month,
            which was the 5th year of King Jehoiachin's captivity.

            AM 3567 (BC 485) Jehoiachin captured.
            + 5 yrs.
            ---------
            AM 3572 (BC 480)

            It is 480 years to the year "0", the year Jesus was
            supposed to be born. There is a 5 year error in the
            calendar, so Jesus was born BC 4. His age at 30 is
            in AD 26, the year Ezekiel saw Him. This is the year
            the Gospel began. The year John was called out in
            the 15th year of Tiberas. LUKE 3:1,23

            AM 4064 (AD12) Tiberas
            + 14 yrs.
            --------
            AM 4078 (AD 26) The Gospel

            [The four living creatures]

            Each of the four had a face of a Man, and on the
            right side each had the face of a Lion, and on
            the left the face an Ox; each also had the face
            of an Eagle.

           * Man - "The Gospel according to Luke"

Dave aka lambsev wrote:

"By the way I'm sure Ezekiel would tell you there is but ONE Gospel."

Let us return now to Ezekiel 1; Now it came to pass
in the 30th year, in the 4th month, in the 5th day
of the month...I saw visions of G-D.
V.2 This vision was in the 5th day of the month,
which was the 5th year of King Jehoiachin's captivity.

AM 3567 (BC 485) Jehoiachin captured.
+ 5 yrs.
---------
AM 3572 (BC 480)

It is 480 years to the year "0", the year Jesus was
supposed to be born. There is a 5 year error in the
calendar, so Jesus was born BC 4. His age at 30 is
in AD 26, the year Ezekiel saw Him. This is the year
the Gospel began. The year John was called out in
the 15th year of Tiberas. LUKE 3:1,23

AM 4064 (AD12) Tiberas
+ 14 yrs.
--------
AM 4078 (AD 26) The Gospel

[The four living creatures]

Each of the four had a face of a Man, and on the
right side each had the face of a Lion, and on
the left the face an Ox; each also had the face
of an Eagle.

* Man - "The Gospel according to Luke"
( Jesus the man; blood relative)

Lion - "The Gospel according to Mathew"
(Jesus the king; son of David)

Ox - "The Gospel according to Mark"
(The Covenant)

Eagle -"The Gospel according to John"
(Jesus' Diety-"The Word was G-D")

There are three things necessary for Redemption:

1.) You have to pay the price.

2.) You have to be blood related.

3.) You have to WANT TO.

RA

*Luke was a "saw-bones," who best to know "JESUS THE MAN."?

..He will speak against the MOST HIGH and oppress his saints
and try to change set times and the LAW...
DANIEL 7:25

"SHALOM"!
RAB

Isaiah 6
[9] And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
[10] Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

(Paul)
1Tim.1
[13] Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

(Y'shua)
John.12
[47] And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.[48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

John 3:17

I do not think Rob that you were ever a Christian. A sheep and wolves clothing would probably be a more accurate description.

RobB Wrote:

Exactly right! I've been a Christian all my life but only recently took a good look at why Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah. After months of study it became obvious to me that it is not in any way possible that Jesus was the Messiah, specifically because he didn't fulfill ANY of the prophesies, aside from being Jewish. I now plan to convert to the true religion of Judaism.

BTW, hardly anybody on the web has anything good to say about Jews for Jesus.

EmmaG Wrote:

The list goes on and on. I would be impressed if Jesus fulfilled the actual Messianic prophecies along with these other so-called prophecies. But the fact is, he didn't. And the fact also still remains that these prophecies are not really prophecies.

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