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searchinmyroots said:

"The "nations" are the Gentile nations. Everyone who is NOT a Jew.

Don't quote something unless it is from the Hebrew Bible."
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  For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcism
that which is outward in the flesh;
but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcism is that of
the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not
from men but from G-D.
ROMANS 2:28-29

Just because you are born a Jew does not make you a Jew!
When you accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and
SAVIOR, you are then re-born a Spiritual Jew.

"The Father loves he Son, and has given all things into His
hand."
"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who
does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of
G-D abides on him."
JOHN 3:35-36

SHALOM!
RAB

  

That's why I use the terms "self-hating", "pagan", "non-Messianic", etc., when refering to especially Talmudist, anti-Zionist Jewish (Hebrew) people who aren't Messianic Jewish people or Jewish Christians.

Ray,

Sorry, quotes from the gt are irrelevant. G-d says who the gentile nations are, that is who I believe.

If you are born a Jew, you are a Jew. Nothing can take that away.

The only way a gentile can become a Jew is through righteous conversion. Read it, G-d says so.

Peacemaker,

You said;
"Haven't you created your own types and shadows in order to maintain worship without a temple or priesthood?"

SMR:

Explain to me how the Jews were forgiven for their sins between the destruction of the first Temple and the second Temple?

Ezekiel tells us how, sorry, no sacrifices, no blood.

How could that be????

" For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcism
that which is outward in the flesh;
but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcism is that of
the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not
from men but from G-D.
ROMANS 2:28-29"


RE:
Amen.

Good to hear from you again Ray.


PS) Go easy on SMR cuz he's my friend and a good person. Wiseman too.

" For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcism
that which is outward in the flesh;
but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcism is that of
the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not
from men but from G-D.
ROMANS 2:28-29"


RE:
Amen.

Greetings!
Good to hear from you again Ray.


PS) Go easy on SMR cuz he's my friend and a good person. Wiseman too.

THE UNBELIEF OF THE JEWS

Then came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter,
and Jesus was in the temple area walking in Solomon's Colonade.
The Jews gathered around him, saying, "How long will you keep us
in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly."
Jesus answered, I did tell you, but you do not believe.The miracles
that I do in my Father's name speak for me, but you do not believe
because you are not my sheep.
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can
snatch them out of my hand.
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one
can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE."
JOHN 10:22-30

For this is what YAHWEH says-
he who created the heavens,
he is ELOHIYM himself,
he who fashioned and made the
earth, he founded it;
he did not create it to be empty,
but formed it to be inhabited-

he says:
"I am YAHWEH,
and there is no other...
V.20 "Gather together and come;
assemble, you fugitives from the nations...
V.22 Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends o the earth;
for I am ELOHIYM, and there is no other.

SEE ZECHARIAH 8:23

RE: Romans 2:28-29

Does that mean there is credible evidence that G-d himself believes in types and shadows? Was the circumcision of the flesh simply an image of the true circumsion that is required...circumcision of the heart.

Jeremiah 9:25-26 ( Complete Jewish Bible )

9:25
"The days are coming," says ADONAI, "when I will punish all those who have been circumcised in their uncircumcision -

9:26
Egypt, Y'hudah, Edom, the people of 'Amon and Mo'av, and all those living in the desert who cut the edges [of their beard]: "For although all the Goyim are uncircumcised, all the house of Isra'el have uncircumcised hearts."


I guess we know which circumcision matters most...no matter where we look in the scriptures.


Peace

    SMR SAID:


   "The only way a gentile can become a Jew is through righteous conversion. Read it, G-d says so"
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Indeed!  a righteous conversion. Thats exactly what it takes.
    "The Father loves he Son, and has given all things into His
hand."
"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who
does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of
G-D abides on him."
JOHN 3:35-36

SHALOM!
RAB