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Here is a link to a question posed rhetorically by one of Jesus disciples.

http://portlandporcupine.com/jac/chap13.html

Why does every place where people who love Jesus have to become a place where unbelievers and haters want to gather and argue with the believers?  If you want to hate and fight, thats your right, but go somewhere else.  If a Jew or non Jew is saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, no human being can change that, so you're just wasting your time.  We still love you and will pray for you, but go away and hate somewhere else.  Jesus loves even those who hate him, but he will not force you to be with Him. He's the one who gave you a free will in the first place. Jesus made Jews and non Jews both, and He loves everyone and everything He created.  He wants the Jews and non Jews to come together as one.  And since Jesus is a Jew and since he created the non Jews, when a non Jew becomes saved by Him, then the non Jew is grafted in as a Jew, according to Jesus Himself. Then we are as one, and there is no difference in us after that.  We love one another.  I attend a Jewish Messianic church with Jews and non Jews and a Rabbi who loves Jesus with a passion.  I am a Gentile, grafted in as a Jew, because the same Jesus who made the Jews also made me.  I am an older lady who Loves Jesus and has raised my children to do so, and m Grandchildren are learning about Jesus now as well.  How did I get to a Jews for Jesus Church?  One night i had a dream and in the dream there were absolutely no words and it only lasted a few seconds. I was in a beautiful Church with the sun streaming in through the door.  I was aware that I was in a Jewish/Christian Church.  A very kind Jewish man was showing me around. The dream ended, i awoke, and I wanted to go back so badly.  I began to ask Jesus to please take me to that Church, that I wanted to know His people and learn from His people, back to the roots.  A few days later I was telling someone about my dream, and she said, "Well honey, there IS a church like that here in the city, look it up"  So I looked it up on the internet in my city, and found it.  The minute I walked in, the music was playing, everyone was worshipping in Hebrew and English, and I began to weep from my spirit.  I knew I was home and I knew Jesus had given me the dream, and I knew the whole thing was His idea.  He wants the true believers, Jews and grafted in Jews to come together in worship. And I am one of those He wanted to do this.  And we "grafted in" Jews need to sit back and listen and learn at the feet of the Jews for Jesus, and get back to the roots, to the real thing.  Every day I thank Jesus for bringing me together with His people!

I'm surprised you didn't ask dwain (cor517) that same question. dwain is an anti-Trinitarian.

Very nice story sherry. My wife and I have dreams that seem so real at times, and I mention this because we may have alot in common. My wife's name is Cherie.
I would like to take this opportunity to give everyone a link to a website where you can watch a wonderful 30 minute video. The video appears like this;

"Oh that men would praise the LORD!"
DSL Video    56K Video    Audio  DSL Mac IPOD

To save video, right click above option and save to your desktop.
Here is the link to the website; http://prophecyinthenews.com/

There is a new video every week on this site. These guys really have a passion for everyone, especially Israel. Please reply to me what all of you think of the video "Oh that men would praise the LORD!"
johnmolaison@yahoo.com

Oh please stop it!You are offering for sale an aerial map of Israel ,for $19.95,and you claim it shows the name of God.How low can you get?The bottomless pit has no boundaries i suppose.No wonder you are having dreams.It is probably indigestion.

http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/images/.../Map01.jpg

helidoni.

Nice to meet you as well. By the way, I am not offering the map of Israel, that would be the people who run the ministry. Although, it was very nice to meet someone that thinks I am going to the bottomless pit without asking. I asked the Lord to save me from that place, so we are probably in the same family, go figure.

I was laughing. It's just the Virgin Mary crackers or prayer rugs.

I wrote the previous article, why do people who want to hate and fight come to this website?  The reason has become quite obvious.....either they have belief at least as big as a grain of mustard seed, and are wanting to know Jesus, but are afraid to do so because they know that once they know the truth, they cannot in good conscience turn back....OR, on the other hand, they believe there is Jesus, Yeshua, and are against Him, do not want any part of Him, and want to destroy His people and all they stand for.  It has to be one or the other.  You know why?  If they truly thought it was a bunch of bologna, if they truly did not believe, then they would not waste their time coming in here.  Its elementary psychology.  If you absolutely do NOT believe in something then you've no desire or time to mess with it.  You just ignore it.  So, the haters who come in here are believers in Jesus who either want to be a part of His kingdom and are afraid to committ, or else they believe in Him, but hate him and are against Him.  If you are one who believes and are afraid to accept Him, don't be.....He has open arms to welcome you, saying, Come to Him, those who thirst, and He will give you rest.....and if you are the ones who believe in Him and hate him.......You should live in fear.  But if you truly do not believe, you would not enter this room, you would just ignore us as if we didn't exsist.  you would not have time for us.  You simply wouldn't waste your time.  But you are wasting your time for one of those two reasons.  Its a fact, an absolute fact.  And to the gentleman and his wife who wrote me the kind article, thank you, my brother and sister in Yeshua, our Mesiah.

You sir,have appeared out of thin air,promoted the website, and now you tell us you are not responsible.Here is a bit more about the aerial view of Israel, with two people, not one,holding the picture.Atmospheric conditions must be heavy.

http://prophecyinthenews.com/images/prod...2701bg.jpg

Regarding salvation,i would not presume to tell whether one is saved or not.It is God's job,not mine.

helidoni.

Sometimes I wonder, what the world would have been like if  Sarah had been more loving and supportive of Hagar and Ismael , (her surrogate son).
Sometime I wonder why Abraham did not try to bring a more peaceful and compassionate solution to his domestic matters.
Sometimes I wonder, reading that G-D blessed Ismael and provided for him and Hagar in the desert, and Hagar did so love her son Ismael, there is so much pain and suffering among the children of Isaac and the children of Ismael ?
Sometime I wonder what would sweet Yeshua, who I love so dearly and brought the Spirit of Love and Forgiveness to us, all who would receive HIM, would, and will do?