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The one thing that would bother me about Jews praying is praying n Jesus name.  This strikes me as idolotry.  My Messianic Rabbi (through Chosen People Ministires, I believe) mentioned that it actually means topray in Jesus way.  I know that when Jesus said "I am the Way' he was referring to himself as the torah and wisdom, and there is no way to heaven except through the word and wisdom of G-d.  What does it mean to pray in Jesus name (way)?

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1 John 2
1MY LITTLE children, I write you these things so that you may not violate God's law and sin. But if anyone should sin, we have an Advocate (One Who will intercede for us) with the Father--[it is] Jesus Christ [the all] righteous [upright, just, Who conforms to the Father's will in every purpose, thought, and action].



john 14:6 Jesus is clear I am The way to God and 1 john 2:1 is clear Jesus is our advocate who takes our prayers to our Father.

When when pray in Jesus name we are asking him to intercede for us.

so who right The rabbi or God word on this subject

The Name of Jesus is of utmost importance in intercession. Without His Name we are unableto do anything, without His Name we do not have the right to enter into God's presence to ask for anything of Him in prayer.

To pray in Jesus' Name means among other things, the following:
To be conformed to His nature.
To pray for His sake.
To use His Name as your reference.
Is to claim Calvary's victory for your need.
To acknowledge His full role as God's anointed – your Prophet,Priest and King.
Is to pray with all His authority.
Is the key to all the power and promises of God.

Jesus explicitly saysthat we should pray in His Name:John 14:13-14: "And I will do whatever you ask, ask in My Name, so that the Son may bring Glory to the Father. You may ask Me for anything in My Name, and I will do it."John 15:16: "You did not choose Me, but I chose you to go and bear fruit; fruit that will last.Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in My Name."John 16:23-24: "I tell you the truth, My Father will give you whatever you ask in My Name.Until now you have not asked for anything in My Name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."John 16:26: "In that day you will ask in My Name. I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf."

During the time the Bible was written, a person's name described his character. A person'sn name tells you who the person is and what you can expect from him. There are many different names in Scripture for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, that tell us who They are and what we can expect from them.

Paul (Sha'ul) belonged to one of the strictest sects of the Jews. “...I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee...” (Acts 23:6). Was Paul a liar? We know he was not. Therefore, we must accept this statement of Sha’ul’s at face value. He did not say; “I was a Pharisee", he said; “I am a Pharisee"...

Paul studied under the head of the Sanhedrin (the highest court in Judea). “...brought up in this city (Jerusalem) at the feet of Gamaliel...” (Acts 22:3). Paul was himself most likely a member of the Sanhedrin, as evidenced by the following scripture, which fits perfectly the Jewish practice of stoning: “And cast him (Stephen) out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet whose name was Saul (Sha’ul).” (Acts 7:58). Since it was the responsibility of the members of the Sanhedrin to witness public stonings, I believe that Sha’ul (Saul the Pharisee) was present (in an official capacity) at the stoning, while those who were witnesses against Stephen were required to cast the stones.

So what did Saul the Pharisee say which contrdictss Stanuman's Rabbi?

"There is One God and [b]One Mediator between God and Men, the Man Christ Jesus, Who gave Himself a Ransom for All, to be testified in due Time." "We also Joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ by Whom we have now received the Atonement."— read 1 Timothy 2: 5-6 and  Romans 5:11.

Note: Mediator Strongs Word Number 3316.....

In Greek: mesithv 4, mesitou 1, mesith 1 In NET: intermediary 3, mediator 2, mediates 1 In AV: mediator 6 Count: 6 Definition: 1) one who intervenes between two, either in order to make or
restore peace and friendship, or form a compact, or for
ratifying a covenant
2) a medium of communication, arbitrator

from 3319; a go-between, i.e. (simply) an internunciator, or (by
implication) a reconciler (intercessor):-mediator.
see GREEK for 3319

DavidJ

reading this thread, it just caught my eye, that the terms of mediator could apply to the prophets somewhat, as well.

I mean they delivered messages of reconciliation, demands, and provision to the lost of the kingdom.

But I wanted to ask it has never been said to ask in the name of a prophet.

so thinking along those lines I thought that perhaps the messiahship of Y'shua was not the issue, but that he is considered only a prophet, a good man, a helper of sorts...to the author, and his rabbi.

I would like to appeal to the author and his rabbi....in that today no mediation is in the works from Jerusalem...save the LORD alone.

no prophet, no one crying in the wilderness...no appeal, no message of reconciliation, no demands, and no promise has been coming from Jerusalem since the 'day of the prophets'..
WHY?  

are there no lost?
are there none listening to the LORD?

would Jonah be cast out of his homeland were it today? his day?

my interest in praying in the Name of the LORD Y'shua is that he is alive today.

He lives, he is not foregone conclusion.

can the author address the living?
does the rabbi conclude the prophets are all dead?
bye for now,
kimberly

davidJ I was asking who was right God word or her/his rabbi we are in agreement together

Praying in Jesus name, or specifically for His name sake also involves
living your life for Him and making him your Lord simply from your love for Him.

Y'shua said there is no other way to the Father, but through Him.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other name than Jesus.

Psalm 66:18 If I had cherished iniquity in my heart, the Lord would not have listened. (RSV)

Romans 8:[32] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

1 John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:



David the King, a man after G-d's own heart prayed, yet He was fully aware of the Lord and what G-d required for his prayers to be heard on high.  

Hi stanuman,

If you believe in Jesus and his words, you have nothing to fear,
and you are free to pray to the Father in Jesus' name with a clear conscience,
knowing you are pleasing the Father by fulfilling his commandment.
Praying to God in Jesus' name is absolutely not in any way idolatry.


9 Jesus answered. . . Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. . . .
10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; extracted from John 14:4-11

(Jesus said) 12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. John 14:12-14


(Jesus said) 23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 24 Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete. John 16:23-27

(Jesus said) I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit--fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.  17 This is my command: Love each other. from John 15:9-17

Concerning prayer; You have these promises:
whatever you ask.

1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. 5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"? 6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." from Hebrews 1

DavidJ Wrote:

Hi stanuman,

I recommend you read through the book of Hebrews.
It should ground your confidence in Jesus as our intercessor and our righteousness.
Notice from Hebrews 1:4 (above), the name of Jesus is an inheritance from his Father!

Jesus is one with the Father and he is worthy to be praised!

I agree we should pray in the way Jesus did--I would recommend that you begin your  intercessory prayers with the Lord's prayer to cover yourself and your loved ones with all things necessary from God.

God Bless you in your studies, stanuman
In Jesus' Name!