The text is the whole chapter 53 of Isaiah.

We all know that the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 is the Messiah. So,
no argument about it. But then again, who did Isaiah have in mind when
he wrote chapter 53? In fact, who was in his mind when he wrote the whole book? That's in Isaiah 1:1. "A vision about Judah and Jerusalem."
That's the theme of the book of Isaiah: Judah. The House of Jacob, called by the new name of Israel, from the stock of Judah. (Isa. 48:1)

Now, how about the Suffering Servant? Isaiah mentions him by name, which is Israel, according to Isaiah 41:8,9; 44:1,2,21; 45:4. Here, we
have established a syllogism: If the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 is the
Messiah, and Isaiah identifies that Servant with Israel, the resultant premise will obviously be, that Israel, the Jewish People, is the Messiah.
Rashi thought so too, and so a few other thinkers of weight.

Now, if the Messiah must also bring the epithet of son of God, there will
be no problem. That can be solved with Exodus 4:22,23 and Hosea 11:1.
"Israel is My son; let My son go so that he may serve Me."

And with regards to Yeshua, he was no doubt part of the Messiah, but not on an individual basis. The Messiah is collective, according to Isaiah.
What we need from time to time, especially when in exile, is of a Messianic leader to inspire or lead the Messiah back home. Moses was one when he brought the Messiah back to Canaan. Cyrus was another when he proclaimed the return of the Messiah, and financed the rebuilding of the Temple. And Herzl was also one when he inspired the Messiah with love for Zion. Baruch HaShem!

Ben

Hi Ben,

There are a lot of things Christ(Y'shua) could have done that He didn't do for the simple reason, you can't force or subjugate anyone into loving you.

For those who do not know, through no fault of their own, that Y'shua-Jesus of Nazareth, son of Mary and Joseph the only begotten of God is in fact the Messiah (singular) and that He laid His life down at Calvary, to rise again the third day, and that his righteous innocent blood is the atonement for Israel and the whole world , Yahweh himself will deliver. Y'shua alone is the Saviour, not a people group or race. We ARE made in His image.

Hos.13
[4] Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no Saviour beside me.
Acts 13
[22] And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
[23] Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
Mark.12
[36] For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The people is God is communist manifesto.

To Ben Masada-

You are on the right track here.  The only flaw in your logic is that the two ideas are mutually exclusive.

The fact that Yeshua was raised from the dead is the down deposit on all Jews being raised from the dead.

The resurection of Jesus in 3 days is the down deposit on the Temple being raised after 2 or 3 one thousand year periods.

Yes, you are right, National Israel is strongly identified with the Messiah.

Ben, this has been discussed before.

If you care to read and add to the existing thread, HERE IT IS

A "stumper" it's not.

Oh, and here's another thread on the subject: HERE

To Ben Masada-

Israel is the anointed king nation.  It is not a savior nation.  It is a suffering servant nation.

What good is it for God to put the sins of the world on Israel.

That is where the analogy breaks down.

There is one savior person, and many recipient people of that salvation.

To say you are the messiah nation that doesn't mean you are all saviors you still need a savior.

The thing about believers not being called Christians to Antioch is really no big deal.  The reality can be there and the idea without the word being coined till later.

For example, we had terrorism before we it became a household word.