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ThomasDGW
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RE: Any comments from the Orthodox?

"Raising from the dead does not qualify someone as being the messiah, no matter what the day."

Robert is in surgery and will not be back for three weeks, so I will give an answer to this. Predicting your own resurrection to the day is not a laughing matter, but is a sign of a true prophet. If that prophet also said that he was the Messiah, as Jesus did, then the resurrection becomes a confirmation of his Messiahship.

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RE: Any comments from the Orthodox?

Cupcake Wrote:

Raising from the dead does not qualify someone as being the messiah, no matter what the day.

This is exactly why your claims that "so-and-so" is the messiah sound so laughable. You claim he fulfilled a whole list of prophecies, none of which are actually messianic prophecies at all! Lol

Yes it does qualify.
King David said:
Psalms:16:10: For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
The first part of the above passage speaks of David knowing that he David would be set free from death. How? The answer is the second part of this passage. "...neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
The passage speak of 2 persons. David and God's Holy One. It was understood in ancient times that this Holy One was Messiah whom King David knew, wrote about and waited for His day. David's son Daniel had it explained to him that Messiah must die but David knew all about Messiah and wrote it in the Psalms revealing much of the future King Messiah.
Read for yourself Cupcake and quit following blind guides.
Ac:13:35: Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Ac:13:36: For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
Ac:13:37: But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

The Pesikta Rabbati, Piska 36: 1-2: affirms that Psalm 22 was viewed as a messianic prophecy:
Psalms:22:22: I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Fullfilled here:
John:20

Also many today try to prove Psalm 22 is not about Messiah's suffering.Talmud writers also spoke of Messiah HIGHER than the Angels.
Midrash Rabbah on Ruth 2:14: He is speaking of the King Messiah: “Come hither” draw near to the throne and “dip thy morsel in the vinegar,” this relates to the chastisements as it is said, “But he was wounded for our transgressions, bruised for our iniquities.”

Midrash Tanhuma, Parasha Toldot, (end of section), states: “Who art thou, O great mountain?” (Zech. 4:7) This refers to King Messiah. And why does he call him the “great mountain?” Because he is greater than the patriarchs, as it is said, “My servant shall be high, and lifted up, and lofty exceedingly.” He will be higher than Abraham who said, “I raise high my hand unto the Lord” (Gen. 14:22), lifted up above Moses, to whom it is said, “Lift it up into thy bosom” (Num. 11:12), loftier than the ministering angels, of whom it is written, “Their wheels were lofty and terrible” (Ezek. 1:18). And out of whom does he come forth? Out of David.

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