Dear sugarman,

“The case for matthew deals with the evidence of one salvation what they will do  after they are saved not what they will do to get saved.”

But it is Jesus speaking and he ends the chapter in this manner:

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


He is confirming that keeping Torah was what was required. Salvation did not yet exist in Christian terms. Jesus was still alive. There was no New Testament, only Torah. You answer appears confused and a misunderstanding of what the scriptural context was.

Best regards,


Avraham

New Question in Bold below

"Hello everyone,
I will try to bring us back to my original questions and an additional one:

“If Jesus was god, or divine, as Messianic’s believe, isn't the game rigged? What I mean by that is that it was impossible for him to lose. What was the point of it all?”

Point number 2:

“If he was god then he certainly was not like us. Can perfection be less than perfect? Can he really be bested by the Devil? If he was tempted with possession of the earth, what could this have meant to him? He created it!”

Now 3:

What does it mean to say he “took our sin upon himself”? Is that the same as sinning? Did he feel guilt? Shame?"

If he is not really like us, a man god, I am not and could not be tempted by the Devil nor did he feel our guilt and shame then it is a “Rigged Game”.

Point number 4:

You say he “took our nature upon him”. But then you contradict yourself and say he was perfect. A perfect man? A man without sin? That would not be anyone I know. How is that like us? He gets to return to being god. A rather disingenuous way for G-d to behave don’t you think? It's a "rigged game!"

Best regards,

Avraham

1. a connection between being in right standing before G-d (righteous) and good works.  It never explicitly says your good works merit that right standing, rather it says righteous people perform good works.  Good trees produce good fruit, but good fruit doesn't cause the tree to be good.
   
2. Isaiah, David, etc said their right standing before G-d was through G-d cleansing/forgiving their sins
   
3. the soul that sins shall die
   
4. "no one is good, no not one", that there are "none that seek after G-d"
   
5. a regenerated heart is a work of G-d
   
6. G-d the source of our righteousness, redemptions, salvation
   
7. the "just (righteous, those in right standing) will live by faith" and that Abraham was reckoned righteous by faith.
   
8. G-d's blessings to Israel and the nations would come through the descendent of Abraham (Gen 12), Judah (Num 24:9), David (2 Sam 7:12-16), the Messiah (Jer 23, etc).  
   
9. if we trusted in G-d's son/Messiah, we would be blessed, otherwise cursed (Deu 18, Ps 2, etc)
   
10. atonement comes through shedding of blood of perfect sacrifices (Lev 17:11)
    
11. the Lamb of G-d would come to substitute for man (Gen 22:8, Deu 32:43, 2 Chron 30:18, Isaiah 53, John 1:29)
    

Avraham, regarding your question about the mystery of how Messiah can be both G-d and man (Isaiah 9:6) - here is a primary NT passage on the topic:

Philippians 2 (Imitating Christ's Humility)

If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.

Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Who, being in very nature[a] God,
      did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
but made himself nothing,
      taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
      being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
      he humbled himself
      and became obedient to death—even death on a cross!
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
      and gave him the name that is above every name,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
      in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
      to the glory of God the Father.

Blessings in Messiah!

Dear Third Day,

“Avraham, regarding your question about the mystery of how Messiah can be both G-d and man”




“(Isaiah 9:6) - here is a primary NT passage on the topic:”

Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:


Interesting? Reconcile that with:

Jhn 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.



This was my question:

“You say he “took our nature upon him”.”


I understand the incarnation to mean that he is taking the flesh upon himself. Now human flesh has been introduced into the godhead. On the other hand Christians believe that the Trinity is unchanged from eternity. Human flesh introduced into the godhead that did not have before….it must have altered it? It can no longer be a “Trinity”. Really, dear friend, none of this makes any sense.



Best regards,

Avraham