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Christian history and the Jewish people
#21
and another thing ! lol. i agree that the u.s.a. will be amongst the end time wars . because the Bible says all nations.but  at no time did i say we were the good guys .  we were the good guys in a way but . communism has overcome us from the inside. one president obama's books he learned from is written by saul luiensky.(spelling) a radical socialist,communist ,progressive ,leftist ,choose one or all. one of his buddys is bill ayers who bombed the pentagon , his 20 year pastor was Jeremirah wright who is more more racist than any kkk member,one of his appointees is kevin jennings (used to be head of radical gay , lesbien group. has been teaching sodomy and homosexuality in our public schools .)also just appointed a envoy to the muslims who has taken up for convicted terriorists supporters for terriorist who have killed Jews and americans. i think Israel will soon learn the democrats in america are not their friends.i can go on but i'll move on .if we're not in the end battle it will most likely be caused by a surprize nuke attack .
  About the anti christ thing that you mentioned . After the Lord saved me and granted me my miracle, i went down to a small nondenominational chrismatic church and told them what happened to me and asked them to  lay hands on me and to pray for me to receive the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues which they did and i did . and then i asked to be baptized in water and was in a small river near my town which i was. seeing as i was 40 at the time and hadn't been raised in churches i looked at many different denominations but didn't find any that i was completly comfortable with I asked God to guide me and to give me the gifts of the Spirit although i had already received one . i guess my faith was strengthened by my experience so i asked for several things . one was  who is the anti christ ?  to be continued  'as the world turn's lol.
#22
o.k.  this is not to offend but i 'm to answer truthfully,right ? not long after i asked who was the anti -christ my folks went several miles over  to the state of Mississippi and somewhere , in a parking lot i think , a african american man walks up to my dad and offered him a small book,more like  a pamplet by the seventh day adventists  called the national sunday law . dad took it ,brought it back with him  to texas and gave it to me and said there was something strange about the way it happened and he gave it to me. a little while later  him and mom goes to another town next to ours and in a store parking lot a african american man offers him another pamplet exactly the same , so my dad takes it and brings it to me . so i take it as a sign because i have been given other signs . any way the Book claims that the popes are the anti christs . i don't know which one is the last one .
2. i thought democracy was  greek inspired . i need to look it up .
On the green tax system it does not matter who thought of it in the past .Al Gore is the main pusher from the U.S.again a leftest,socialist communist progressive whatever . but it's not all communist but also capitalist.the green system will be a merger of all sorts and all countrys (the feet of clay of and all ideologys and idolatrys) .by the way do you drive a car ? and would you rather put food in the gas tank or evil oil ?and electricity can't lubercate your motors so houston we have a problem . and how about george soros . any way the arabs and persians and many russians and mexicans and chavez also  controll the evil oil. it's no use to blame any one country and Israel will be the only one left standing ( cause God said so  ).oh yeah  the Pope says we need to do the green thing also. i think thats all i got except i need to check on that greek thing. i'll be back . shalom
#23
There is a lot of hate to go around, though I have actually personally encountered Jew haters. They wanted first of all to know if I was a Jew! Yeah, I was kind of surprised when it came up for no apparent reason. They would not say why they hated Jews, so my best guess is it had something to do with a moral disagreement. Like I said there is a lot of hatred out there, a lot of bombs with short fuses and the bombs don't like it when you drive the speed limit in front of them. Plus there is a lot of paranoia and there are continually conspiracy rumors, end of the world rumors, and other rumors. The TV evangelists, famous fallen church leaders and famous Islamic terrorists somehow add to the whole package, so that it is quite the jack-in-the-box when you spring it. Jews occasionally get associated with all of these things.  
#24
o.k. i found and copyed it . Democracy is a political government carried out either directly by the people (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people (Representative democracy). The term is derived from the Greek: δημοκρατία - (dēmokratía) "rule of the people",[1] which was coined from δῆμος (dêmos) "people" and κράτος (krátos) "power", in the middle of the fifth-fourth century BC to denote the political systems then existing in some Greek city-states, notably Athens following a popular uprising in 508 BC.[2] Even though there is no specific, universally accepted definition of 'democracy',[3] there are two principles that any definition of democracy includes: equality and freedom. [4][dubious – discuss] These principles are reflected in all citizens being equal before the law and having equal access to power. [5] and the freedom of its citizens is secured by legitimized rights and liberties which are generally protected by a constitution.[6][7].[6][7]

There are several varieties of democracy, some of which provide better representation and more freedoms for their citizens than others.[8][9] However, if any democracy is not carefully legislated – through the use of balances – to avoid an uneven distribution of political power, such as the separation of powers, then a branch of the system of rule could accumulate power and become harmful to the democracy itself.[10][11]
-----Any how that's the basic. how ever Bush didn't say he went to iraq to force protestanty but to make a regime change and promote democracy (which won't work .) and other countrys got more oil than the U.s. actually we have more oil than Iraq. . i hope that answers most of your questions. if not i can try harder .peace in yeshuah.
#25
soniyajack Wrote:There is a lot of hate to go around, though I have actually personally encountered Jew haters. They wanted first of all to know if I was a Jew! Yeah, I was kind of surprised when it came up for no apparent reason. They would not say why they hated Jews, so my best guess is it had something to do with a moral disagreement. Like I said there is a lot of hatred out there, a lot of bombs with short fuses and the bombs don't like it when you drive the speed limit in front of them. Plus there is a lot of paranoia and there are continually conspiracy rumors, end of the world rumors, and other rumors. The TV evangelists, famous fallen church leaders and famous Islamic terrorists somehow add to the whole package, so that it is quite the jack-in-the-box when you spring it. Jews occasionally get associated with all of these things.  ------------------
yes soniyajack,  i've encounted Jew haters just from the fact i'm for the Jews and that i confess Christ,Jesus Yeshuah messiah.people who hate the word of God hate every one thats of God.even most non believers have heard that the Jews are God's chosen people .so those who are not God's chosen hate those people who are. i believe that Gentiles who want to follow the way of Jesus needs to be ingrafted onto the Jewish branch not  the Jews to be grafted into the gentile branch.i don't keep the commandments to be saved(but because the commandments are good and my Father in heaven said so )and he already saved me .maybe this year in Jerusalem . shalom
#26
this is some history that reveals some of the persecutions inflicted on christians by others who claimed to be christians, this is to reveal that the jewish were by far not the only victims of unrighteousness.(taken from foxe's book of martyrs) "  Exclusive of the duke of Savoy's troops , and the roman catholic inhabitants , there were several regiments of French auxiliaries , some companies belonging to the Irish brigades , and several bands formed of outlaws , smugglers , and prisoners , who had been promised pardon and liberty in this world , and absolution in the next , for assisting to exterminate the protestants from Piedmont .  This armed multitude being encouraged by the Roman Catholic bishops and monks , fell upon the Protestants in a most furious manner . All now was horror and despair; blood stained the floors of the houses , dead bodies bestsrewed the streets , and groans and cries shocked the ears of humanity from every quarter . Some armed themselves and skirmished with the troops ; and many , with their families , fled to the mountains .
  There were several men , women , and children , flung from the rocks , and dashed to pieces . among others was Magdalen Bertino, a protestant woman of La Torre, who was stripped , and thrown down one of the precipices . Mary Raymondet , of the same town , had her flesh sliced from her bones till she expired ; Magdalen Pilot , of Villaro , was cut to pieces in the cave of castelus ;----continued--
#27
2nd part taken from Foxe's book of martyrs.--" Ann Charboniere had one end of a stake thrust through her body , and the other and being fixed in the ground , she was left in that manner to perish ; and Jacob Prins the elder , of the church of Villaro , with David , his brother , were flayed alive.Giovanni Andrea Michialin , an inhabitant of La Torre , with four of his children , was apprehended ; three of them were hacked to pieces before him , the soldiers asking him at the death of each child if he would recant , which he constantly refused . One of the soldiers then took up the last  and the youngest by the legs , and putting the same question to the father , he replied as before , when the inhuman brute dashed out the child's brains. The father , however , at the same moment started from them and fled ; the soldiers fired after him, but missed him. he escaped to the Alps , and there remained concealed."-
---this in just a very small fraction of the accounts of the blood of the saints beginning with the stoning of Stephen ( a Jewish deacon of the first christian church ) , to the burning to death of Urbanus,Manidemus, and Theodorus , with 80 other orthodox clergymen aboard a ship near Constantinople.if any one was to wonder what is meant in revelations by the blood of the saints this is the book to read.


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