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Jesus' True Birthday
#31
JACOB AM 2108 (BC 1944)+ 480 = MOSES AM 2588 (BC 1464).

MOSES AM 2588 + 80 yrs. = AM 2668 (BC 1384); EXODUS.

EXODUS AM 2668 + 480 = AM 3148 (BC 9O4) SOLOMON's TEMPLE.

SOLOMON's TEMPLE AM 3148 + 480 = AM 3628 (BC 424); CYRUS' TEMPLE.

CYRUS' TEMPLE AM 3628 + 480 = AM 4108 (AD 56); APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

A bit of the 480 (40X12) CODE.


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#32
AD 2012 (AM 6064) JUBILEE “yobel; blast of a trumpet”


EXODUS – AM 2668 (BC1384); from Egypt to “The Promised Land.” Due to unfaithfulness, it took 40 years, a year for a day, AM 2708 (BC 1344). Everyone, 20 years of age or older had to fall in the Wilderness except Moses, Joshua, and Caleb. It was in the year AM 2688 (BC 1364) that the Wilderness Church was complete.

AM 2708 (BC1384) – JERICO + 6 years = AM 2714 (BC 1338) JUDGES.

AM 2714 (BC1338) – AM 3064 (BC 988) 350 years; KING SAUL.

The ancient Talmudic tradition the 1st Sabbatic year was AM 2721 (BC 1331).

The 1st Jubilee AM 2764 (BC 1288) + 3,300 years = AM 6064
(AD 20012); or 66 Jubilee’s.

“When you enter the land I am going to give you, the land itself must observe a Sabbath to the Lord. For 6 years sow your fields, and for 6 years prune your vineyards and gather their crops. But in the 7th year the land is to have a Sabbath of rest...
[LEVITICUS 25:2-4]

Count off 7 Sabbaths of years – 7 times 7 years – so that the 7 Sabbaths amount to a period of 49 years. Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the 10th day of the 7th month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land.
Consecrate the 50th year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you;

OCTOBER 8, 2011 YOM KIPPUR
[LEVITICUS 25:8-10]

JESUS LOVES YOU!
RAB
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#33
RABURGHEN Wrote:A bit of the 480 (40X12) CODE.
JESUS LOVES YOU!
  RAB     Confusedurprised:
I believe Yeshua's birth fell somewhere in October on; Feast of Tabernacles. I believe though the exact year is hard to determine,other than Roman records and the historians account , and of course the scriptures account of the timeperiods   .......... (Luke 2:1-3).
   "In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3 And everyone went to his own town to register".


  "Caesar Augustus" reigned as emperor of the Roman empire from 27 B.C. to 14 A.D. (Or 727 A.U.C. to 767 A.U.C.), 41 years in all. The grandnephew of Julius Caesar (100- 44 B.C.), his real name was Gaius Octavius and he lived from 63 B.C. to 14 A.D. Because Julius Caesar had legally adopted Octavius as his son, Octavius took the name "Caesar" from Julius, which in later years became a name almost equivalent to "emperor." "Augustus" is a Latin term that means "worthy of reverence."

The three empire-wide censuses were in 28 B.C., 8 B.C., and 14 A.D. In all probability the one in 8 B.C. is the one the Luke mentions . Even though scholarship normally dates Yeshua's birth between 4 and 7 B.C., the 8 B.C. census fits because in all likelihood it would have taken several years for the bureaucracy of the census to reach Palestine.

The only apparent difficulty with identifying the census that Luke mentions in the Gospels with the one in 8 B.C. is, ironically, something Luke seemingly included to clarify the dating. He tells us in 2:2 that "this was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governing Syria." So.....All we have to do is find out exactly when Quirinius was governing Syria and then we will know exactly when the census was given, right?.Well, the problem is, according to records available to us, Quirinius was governor of Syria in 6-7 A.D. -- eleven years too late!The key to solving this discrepancy, is in the phrase "first census" in the sentence, "This was the first census taken while Quirinius was governing Syria." What does Luke mean by a first census?Again I believe it is a mistranslation; The Greek word for "first" (prote) is sometimes translated "prior to" or "before." So he Greek text of Luke 2:2 can indeed be translated, "This census was before Quirinius was governing Syria."

So what remains of any Archeological findings seems to indicate 2-8 BC, which is highly controversial. Somehow I believe G-d leaves Yeshua's birthday, hidden so that we do not know the day.
#34
Year (Approx.)
Josephus  Matthew  Luke  
Prior to 3 BCE     Mary found to be pregnant (1:18)
Angel visits Joseph (1:20)  
Jesus born in Bethlehem (2:1) [9 months]
Wise men visit (2:1) [?]
Herod commissions the wise men to find Jesus (2:8)  
Wise men visit Jesus in a house in Bethlehem (2:11)  
Wise men depart to their own country (2:12)  
Joseph flees to Egypt with Jesus and Mary (2:14)  
Herod massacres the children of Bethlehem (2:16)  
Angel appears to Zachariah, husband of Elizabeth (1:5)
Elizabeth becomes pregnant (1:24) [1 year?]
Angel appears to Mary in Nazareth, in Elizabeth's sixth month (1:26, 1:36) [6 months]
Mary visits Elizabeth (1:39)  
Mary returns to Nazareth in Elizabeth's ninth month (1:56) [3 months]
John the Baptist is born (1:57)  

4 BCE  Herod dies, bequeaths kingdom to Archelaus (Ant. 17, 8:1)  Herod dies, Joseph leaves Egypt (2:19) [?]
Archelaus becomes ruler of Judaea, Joseph detours to Nazareth (2:22) [Same]
    
6 CE  Archelaus banished to Vienna in the tenth year of his reign. Syria becomes a roman province. Cyrenius appointed to governorship of Syria. Caesar instructs him to conduct a census of Judaea (Ant. 17, 13:2-5; Ant 18, 1:1)     Caesar decrees census under Cyrenius (2:1-2) [at least 8 years]
Joseph and Mary arrive in Bethlehem (2:4)  
Jesus born in Bethlehem (2:6)  
Shepherds visit the newborn Jesus in the manger (2:16)  
Jesus, Mary and Joseph visit the Temple in Jerusalem (2:22) [~40 days]
Jesus, Mary and Joseph return to Nazareth (2:39) [~7 days]
One fact for certain is Luke and Matthew are speaking of two distinct, and separate events.
#35
"Caesar Augustus" reigned as emperor of the Roman empire from 27 B.C. to 14 A.D. (Or 727 A.U.C. to 767 A.U.C.), 41 years in all. The grandnephew of Julius Caesar (100- 44 B.C.), his real name was Gaius Octavius and he lived from 63 B.C. to 14 A.D. Because Julius Caesar had legally adopted Octavius as his son, Octavius took the name "Caesar" from Julius, which in later years became a name almost equivalent to "emperor." "Augustus" is a Latin term that means "worthy of reverence."

AZRIEL
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RULERS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE

A little background:

Aristobolus: (3 years) AM 4021 - AM 4024 (BC 31 - BC 28)
(Preceptor of King Ptolemy)

[In the year 188 in the Kingdom of the Greeks] ll Mac. 1:10

Alexander AM 3834 + 187 = 4021 (BC31)

Ptolemy XV (2 years) AM 4022 - AM 4024 (BC 30 - BC 28)
(Caesarion)
Cleopatra's child; believed to be murdered by Octavian, and possibly Cleopatra too.

(They had a good special on the History Channel)

Augustus Caesar (40 years) AM 4024 - AM 4064 (BC 28 - AD 12)
(Octavian)

It should also be noted there is no "year 0," thereby losing a year.

[BC 1 - AD 1]

RULERS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE:

Octavian BC 27 - AD 14
Tiberas AD 14 - AD 37
Caligula AD 37 - AD 41
Claudius AD 41 - AD 54
Nero AD 54 - AD 68

Should be:
BC 28 - AD 12
AD 12 - AD 36
AD 36 - AD 40
AD 40 - AD 54
AD 54 - AD 68



41 yrs; 40 yrs
23 yrs; 24 yrs
4 yrs; 4 yrs
13 yrs: 14 yrs
14 yrs; 14 yrs
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95 yrs; 96 yrs (If you omit the year o, you lose a year.)


JESUS LOVES YOU!
   RAB :cheesygrin:    

      



#36
:cheesygrin:Simeon took Him in his arms and praised God, saying:
"Soverign Lord as You have promised,
You now dismiss your servant in peace.
For my eyes have seen your Salvation, which You have
prepared in the sight of all the people,
a light for revelation to the Gentiles and for glory to your
people Iarael."
[LUKE 2:28]

Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, His mother:
"This Child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many
in Israel, and is to be a sign that will be spoken against, so
that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword
will pierce your own heart too." V. 34,35

JESUS LOVES YOU!
  RAB      :cheesygrin:

#37
AZRIEL WROTE:
"Caesar Augustus" reigned as emperor of the Roman empire from 27 B.C. to 14 A.D. (Or 727 A.U.C. to 767 A.U.C.), 41 years in all. The grandnephew of Julius Caesar (100- 44 B.C.), his real name was Gaius Octavius and he lived from 63 B.C. to 14 A.D. Because Julius Caesar had legally adopted Octavius as his son, Octavius took the name "Caesar" from Julius, which in later years became a name almost equivalent to "emperor." "Augustus" is a Latin term that means "worthy of reverence."
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Jesus' True Birthday
THE ROMAN EMPIRE

Caesar Augustus (40 yrs) AM 4024 - AM 4064 (BC 28 - AD 12)
(Octavian)

[Jesus born AM 4048 (BC 4)] on 10 Nisan ~ "Choosing of the Lamb"

Caesar Tiberius (24 yrs) AM 4064 - AM 4088 (AD 12 - AD 36)

In the 15th year of Tiberius, when John was called out:
AM 4064 + 14 years = AM 4078 (AD 26) ~ Jesus, age 30.
(Lk. 3: 1-23) was baptized. After a period of 40 days of fasting in the wilderness, he began preaching the Gospel. He preached for 1,440 days.
This brings us to AM 4082 (AD 30) when he was crucified. He was the Paschal Lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

Caligula (4 yrs) AM 4088 - AM 4092 (AD 36 - AD 40)

Claudius (14 yrs) AM 4092 - AM 4106 (AD 40 - AD 54)

Nero (14 yrs) AM 4106 - AM 4120 (AD 54 - AD 68)

Galba (1 yr) AM 4120 - AM 4121 (AD 68 - AD 69)

Otho AM 4121 - AM 4121 (AD 69 - AD 69)

Vittelius AM 4121 - AM 4121 (AD 69 - AD 69)

*Vespasian AM 4121 - AM 4131 (AD 69 - AD 79)

Note: *Titus, a general under Vespasian destroyed Temple ll in AM 4122
(AD 70)

Titus (2 yrs) AM 4131 - AM 4133 (AD 79 - AD 81)

JESUS LOVES YOU!
  RAB     :cheesygrin:



#38
I don't know the exact day He was born. I'm just glad He was born unto us! However, I don't think our Father in Heaven would have placed His birth the same as the pagan gods (december 25). So I tend to agree that it was NOT on December 25th. Blessings to all!
#39
RABURGHEN Wrote:[Jesus born AM 4048 (BC 4)] on 10 Nisan ~ "Choosing of the Lamb"
That sounds fairly accurate as I always looked to the most obvious events surrounding Yeshu'a birth to determine His birthdate. The most collaborating was Herod's death, seeing it was upon his death Mary and Joesh, and the child Yeshua returned from Eygpt. I believe Yeshua was a ""child"" [Matthew 2]when they fled to Eygpt and not a newborn"" babe'', as written in[ Luke 2]. I was always fascinated in Herods death.Since the work of Emil Schürer in 1896 most scholars have agreed that Herod died at the end of March or early April in 4 BCE,placing Yeshua's birth still fitting wwith the gospels. I believe Yeshua could have been 6 months old at Herods death
Further evidence is provided by the fact that his sons, between whom his kingdom was divided, dated their rule from 4 BCE, and Archilaus apparently also exercised royal authority during Herod's lifetime. Josephus states that Philip the Tetrarch's death took place after a 37-year reign, in the 20th year of Tiberius (34 CE).

Josephus tells us that Herod died after a lunar eclipse. He gives an account of events between this eclipse and his death, and between his death and Passover. A partial eclipse took place on March 13, 4 BCE, about 29 days before Passover, and this eclipse is usually taken to be the one referred to by Josephus. There were however three other, total, eclipses around this time, and there are proponents of both 5 BCE– with two total eclipses, and 1 BCE.


Bronze coin of Herod the Great, minted at Samaria.Josephus wrote that Herod's final illness – sometimes named as "Herod's Evil" – was excruciating. From Josephus' descriptions, some medical experts propose that Herod had chronic kidney disease complicated by Fournier's gangrene. Modern scholars agree he suffered throughout his lifetime from depression and paranoia. More recently, others report that the visible worms and putrefaction described in his final days are likely to have been scabies; the disease might have accounted for both his death and psychiatric symptoms. Similar symptoms attended the death of his grandson Agrippa I in CE 44.

After Herod's death, his kingdom was divided among three of his sons. Archilaus became king of Judaea, Herod Antipas became tetrarch of Galilee and Peraea, and Philip became tetrarch of territories east of the Jordan.Still the exact date can not be 100% accurate, and records of Yeshua's birth were hidden to escape Herods grasp.I also thought the dating of the star of Bethlehem will tell us one day.Great post Ray!
#40
AZRIEL stated:  That sounds fairly accurate as I always looked to the most obvious events surrounding Yeshu'a birth to determine His birthdate...

Bethlehem’s Climate

Climate
Bethlehem has a Mediterranean climate, with hot and dry summers and cold winters. Winter temperatures (mid-December to mid-March) can be cold and rainy. January is the coldest month, with temperatures ranging from 1 to 13 degree Celsius (33–55 °F). From May through September, the weather is warm and sunny. August is the hottest month, with a high of 27 degrees Celsius (81 °F). Bethlehem receives an average of 700 millimeters (27.6 in) of rainfall annually, 70% between November and January.
Bethlehem's average annual relative humidity is 60% and reaches its highest rates between January and February. Humidity levels are at their lowest in May. Night dew may occur in up to 180 days per year. The city is influenced by the Mediterranean Sea breeze that occurs around mid-day. However, Bethlehem is affected also by annual waves of hot, dry, sandy and dust Khamaseen winds from the Arabian Desert, during April, May and mid-June.

So we see we have unfavorable weather for the shepherds to be out in the fields mid-December to mid-March. [cold and rainy months]

Shows Jesus was born in the SPRING.

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