Jesus' True Birthday

[RayBurghen]

                              THE ROMAN EMPIRE

Caesar Agustus (40 yrs) AM 4024 - AM 4064 (BC 28 - AD 12)
(Octavian)

[Jesus born  AM 4048 (BC 4)] on 10 Nisan ~ "Choosing of the Lamb"

Caesar Tiberius (24 yrs) AM 4064 - AM 4088 (AD 12 - AD 36)

In the 15th year of Tiberius, when John was called out:
    AM 4064 + 14 years = AM 4078 (AD 26) ~ Jesus, age 30.
(Lk. 3: 1-23) was baptized. After a period of 40 days of fasting in the wilderness, he began preaching the Gospel. He preached for 1,440 days.
This brings us to AM 4082 (AD 30) when he was crucified. He was the Paschal Lamb who takes away the sins of the world.

Caligula  (4 yrs) AM 4088 - AM 4092 (AD 36 - AD 40)

Claudius (14 yrs) AM 4092 - AM 4106 (AD 40 - AD 54)

Nero (14 yrs) AM 4106 - AM 4120 (AD 54 - AD 68)

Galba (1 yr) AM 4120 - AM 4121 (AD 68 - AD 69)

Otho          AM 4121 - AM 4121 (AD 69 - AD 69)

Vittelius      AM 4121 - AM 4121 (AD 69 - AD 69)

*Vespasian  AM 4121 - AM 4131 (AD 69 - AD 79)

Note: *Titus, a general under Vespasian destroyed Temple ll in AM 4122
          (AD 70)

Titus (2 yrs) AM 4131 - AM 4133 (AD 79 - AD 81)


(U.S.W.)

So we see, Jesus was born in April, not December!

       SHALOM!
          RA

          

[Brianroy]

I respectfully disagree. The late brother, Zola Levitt, also was of your belief in a spring birth.
I believe John the Baptist was born in April or so, not Jesus.
In part, because the timing of when Zacharias, the father of John, served his course at the Temple.

Jesus was probably born on or about Rosh Hashana to Tabernacles, or September to early October.  

Also, Jesus ministry began in or about August to September, and lasted 3 1/2 years.  Pointing again, to a birth in late summer to early fall.

[YehudiahOfYeshua]

Augustus actually died in 4066/14 A.D.

[sugarman]

sorry but this  still does not prove it. we not sure when he was born even that math you put up is theory.

[RayBurghen]

To All; Science Minded,  

                   The date of Passover 11BC – 10AD


Susan Stolovy, an astronomer at Steward Observatory (Tucson, USA), has been kind enough to calculate the date of Passover for me for a wide range of dates around the time of the Nativity.

Susan comments: "I'm getting my information from http://www.uwm.edu/cgi-bin/corre/calendar

The first day of Passover is always the 15th of Nisan (starting the evening of the 14th of Nisan).

Here are the Gregorian dates for Nisan 15. Note that the Jewish calendar has a 19-year cycle, in which the years 0, 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, and 17 all have an extra month of Adar (30 days) which occurs in Feb or March. I happened to notice that the 0th year of one of these cycles is the year 02 (which is 3762), so you can see why some years Passover is considerably later than others."


Hebrew Year
Date of 15 Nisan
Gregorian Year

3750
Mar 27
11 BC

3751
Apr 16
10 BC

3752
Apr 4
9 BC

3753
Mar 25
8 BC

3754
Apr 12
7 BC

3755
Apr 1
6 BC

3756
Mar 21
5 BC

*3757
Apr 10
4 BC

3758
Mar 29
3 BC

3759
Mar 18
2 BC

3760
Apr 6
1 BC

3761
Mar 27
1 AD

3762
Apr 14
2 AD

3763
Apr 3
3 AD

3764
Mar 23
4 AD

3765
Apr 12
5 AD

3766
Apr 1
6 AD

3767
Mar 20
7 AD

3768
Apr 8
8 AD

3769
Mar 28
9 AD

3770
Apr 15
10 AD


You can compare these dates with the dates of lunar eclipses visible from Jerusalem around this time. We know that Herod died between a lunar eclipse observed from Jericho and the date of Passover. In other words, to date Herod’s death, we are looking for an eclipse that happened less than a lunar month (29 days) before the date of Passover.


Date
Year
Type of eclipse

June 3rd
9 BC
Total

November 28th
9 BC
Total

November 18th
8 BC
Partial, 43%

March 23rd
5 BC
Total

September 15th
5 BC
Total

*March 13th
4 BC
Partial, 35%

July 17th
2 BC
Partial, 81%

January 9th
1 BC
Total

Only two eclipses in this interval fall around the time of Passover and, of these, the March 23rd, 5BC eclipse was just after Passover. [In other words, only the March 13th 4 BC eclipse fits the known circumstances of Herod’s death.] Curiously, it was the least spectacular of all the eclipses of the period in question.


"Man learns from history only that he learns nothing from history!"

    SHALOM
       RA

[RayBurghen]

    "Post: #3RE: Jesus' True Birthday
Augustus actually died in 4066/14 A.D."

  Not according to Scripture.


A little background:

Aristobolus: (3 years)  AM 4021 - AM 4024  (BC 31 - BC 28)
(Preceptor of
King Ptolemy)

[In the year 188 in the Kingdom of the Greeks]  ll Mac. 1:10

  Alexander   AM 3834 + 187 = 4021 (BC31)



Ptolemy XV  (2 years) AM 4022 - AM 4024 (BC 30 - BC 28)
(Caesarion)
Cleopatra's child; believed to be murdered by Octavian, and possibly Cleopatra too.

(They had a good special on the History Channel)

Augustus Caesar (40 years) AM 4024 - AM 4064 (BC 28 - AD 12)
(Octavian)

It should also be noted there is no "year 0," thereby losing a year.

[BC 1 - AD 1]

RULERS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE:
                          
Octavian BC 27 - AD 14
Tiberas   AD 14 - AD 37
Caligula  AD 37 - AD 41
Claudius AD 41 - AD 54
Nero      AD 54 - AD 68

Should be:
            BC 28 - AD 12
            AD 12 - AD 36
            AD 36 - AD 40
            AD 40 - AD 54
            AD 54 - AD 68

41 yrs; 40 yrs
23 yrs; 24 yrs
  4 yrs;  4 yrs
13 yrs: 14 yrs
14 yrs; 14 yrs
--------------
95 yrs;  96 yrs  (If you omit the year o, you lose a year.

   "Man learns from history only that he learns nothing from history!"

                         SALEM!
                            RA

[chrikaren]

Wouldn't it be easier to go with what is recorded? We know that John's father, Zechariah, was of the eight course. After He was done with his course, Elizabeth became pregnant. "And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months." Mary conceived in the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy. Discover when the eighth course was required to serve and you will have a better starting point. These little anchors in scripture are usually over looked. Regardless, Yeshua was born around Succoth. Feast of Joy, feast of booths, ingathering, after the later rain and after the first fruits have been harvested, Day of Atonement…do you get how G-d designed this?
Why did Joseph and Mary have a hard time getting a hotel? Because of Augustus’s tax? Perhaps because this time was the end of the Roman fiscal year and Succoth I would imagine that Jerusalem and surrounding cities would be packed to the brim.

Shalom,
Chris

[Kibbles and Bits]

sugarman Wrote:sorry but this  still does not prove it. we not sure when he was born even that math you put up is theory.

I agree with you sugarman,It's all guesses...

[The Parson]

Kibbles and Bits Wrote:

sugarman Wrote:sorry but this  still does not prove it. we not sure when he was born even that math you put up is theory.

I agree with you sugarman,It's all guesses...

Well, for what it is worth. I'm glad He was born when God said it was time. Glory to God...

[chrikaren]

Amen