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Time sensitive ! Please pray for Israel!
#1
I have heard from someone that knows someobody in the Israeli gov that told them the following. That Israel is preparing for a "very serious" uprising or attack (it wasn't disclosed by whom or what group).This confligeration is supposed to occur around Sept 10th or 11Th which is only a week away.Please remember this week to pray for the peace and security of Israel ! Pray that G-d will honor and remember His promises to His people,and that He confuses the enemies and their plans.
#2
(09-02-2011, 02:46 PM)ARuthPerson Wrote: I have heard from someone that knows someobody in the Israeli gov that told them the following. That Israel is preparing for a "very serious" uprising or attack (it wasn't disclosed by whom or what group).This confligeration is supposed to occur around Sept 10th or 11Th which is only a week away.Please remember this week to pray for the peace and security of Israel ! Pray that G-d will honor and remember His promises to His people,and that He confuses the enemies and their plans.
I have heard this as well. The UN convenes to discuss Israel's borders, and declare , the west bank, Hebron/Jerusalem Palestine's capital.The problem lies with , that Israel will of course refuse this,also with lack of support from the U.S., It could trigger a border conflict as millions of Arabs engulf the borders in protest, fuelled by Iran.Please all pray for the safety of our brothers in Israel. Shema Yisrael! Israel shall stand eternal, and all Nations will one day say; Surelt Israel is the chosen of G-D.The children of the 12 Tribes. Pray for Israel undivided ,and not replaced, and G-D's Will be done. It is prophesied![Ezekiel 5:19,20][Ezekiel 39:28]

#3
It appears that Israel is quite concerned about a potential uprising and given their rebuffs at attempts at peace plans it appears justified.
Quote from Shoresh vol 17, No. 9 " Scenes like this of violence and rioting by Palestinians are not expected to stop even if a Palestinian state is to be formed. Palestinian leaders refuse to negotiate in good faith or to even recognize Israel-an ominous sign of trouble ahead' end quote When you consider that Arab minority in Israel have full citizen rights, including Arab woman, one wonders just what is the real reason for this desire to destroy this beautiful land. It reminds me of the two mothers, the one that killed her baby and how she then stole a baby to replace hers. It appears that Palestinians are much like this woman in that they no longer have their land but cant move on and now want only to destroy Israel and her land, using the same argument that this woman used....if they cant have it, no one will!
They are training their children to hate, weve seen this in the video Promises and read it again in this periodical. My prayers for Israel are for the angels that Jesus did not call on when He was being brutally murdered and betrayed by those He loved so dearly, and by those whom he knew as satans sons,He could have called on them but did not, I ask Him to call on them now! I put my trust in JESUS, because all authority has been given to Him on earth and in Heaven. What I would do;
1. I would have the leaders repent for the wrong done to Jesus and those who believe in Him ( that sounds a little down casting, but I mean no offense, just what I do to reconcile myself to God is to first acknowledge what Jesus did for me and repent of my sins that brought that upon Him). Not for any other reason but to bring reconcilation between G-d and them....its the only way.
2. I would find some very choice and desirable land somewhere in this world that the Arabs would be willing to take and charter/parcel it out to them...like they did in America, land not in Israel! A better place for them.
3. I would barter with them and give them food and supplys to build houses in exchange for artillary and guns and weapons. We have to get the weapons out of the hands of irrational and hatemonging individuals bent on destroying Israeli's.
4. I would send preachers by the thousands into Palestine ( with generous gifts for them and their families, both to the Palestinian and the brave ministers), ones with the good news of Jesus and Arabs hate Jewish people so much, to tell them about Jesus, and teach them a better way to live.
5. I would give them something they want for everytime they were kind to a Jewish family.
6. I would offer pardons to their loved ones if they relocated to this land far, far away!!! This land should be very appealing, maybe an island near Hawaii!
7. I would offer free trips to this paradise for large groups/families willing to relocate.
I know its not probable, but wouldnt it be nice!!!
#4
Turkey has gone off the reservation. Their president has supposedly said Turkish warships will escort the next flotilla. Oy. That is just wrond, and forgive me it is STUPID!
#5
High Hope7.

The food supply sounds attractive, but it has to be realy kosher. For Palestinians Halal though, they have another opinion on details, but they eat kosher too. (we don't eat Halal).
A timesharing apartment on an Island near Hawaii shounds great to me too.

But did all kind of Roman leaders allready repent for the wrongdoing done to Jesus and who believed in him? Well I don't blame the Italians in New York anymore what they did wrong to Jesus and Jewish priests etc. So maybe in international relations it's not that important anymore?

Be well
#6
Dear Yetzirah,

I dont think the Romans repented of anything, hense the fall of the Roman empire and I can only speak for myself when I say that repentence moves mountains and If I had a mountain of Palestinians at my front and side doors Id be repenting my heart out! Advice those in that predicament can take or leave since I am not in their shoes.
I dont know about Kosher foods, Ive never been taught about them. I have read some on vegetarianism and my adopted mother was Seventh Day Adventist and they had mostly a vegetarian diet, except when I took her out to eat with us and she ate what we ate, I think she did so gladly by her eagerness to dine out with us. She served me tofu turkey one Thanksgiving, not bad! I think I could be a vegetarian, but I dont see anything wrong with eating eggs and drinking milk, they are naturally produced.
There has to be another solution than to give Palestinains Jewish land! Couldnt we buy them off? Couldnt we pay them to move and cultivate some other desert, we could pour JFJ anointing oil on it and bless that land too! I still think the food for weapons plan is a good one! An island paradise with time shares that they could live in very inexpensively would be nice! There has to be some smart ideas out there without surrendering precious promised land! I hope G-d reveals it to the leaders soon and stop the UN from being the ultimate bully by forcing Jewish people to divide what is theres! G-d bless Israel. PS ITS raining!!!
#7
Hi Hope7,

With the Romans, I still mean the Italians/Germans etc. who did run several Roman empires, when did it fall exactly? The Third Reich was even an idea to bring back the great German/Italian alliance where other countries joined in by alliance or financial help etc.
Partly it didn't fall at all. But why should I blame all the Italians and Germans etc. for it. Why should I blame nowadays Italians?
Maybe I can blame the Kennedy's who supported the idea, and even said afterwards ''Ich bin ein Berliner'', or the Bushes or General Motors (well that empire fell, sort of but is reborn too).

What about the Palestinians? Since when are they a nation (since Arafat said so around 1970, while he was an Egyptian himself). I can understand that we are not good to some of them, and maybe we should repent, and they much more. But most of the more then 1.000.000 Arabs, Turks, Syrians, Egyptian, Libian, Berber and Indian muslims who live in Israel (who call themselves now Palestinians are doing fine.
Even in Gaza nor in the West Bank is a food shorage. The RedCross declare 3 years ago (again) that there is NO humanitairian crisis in Gaza. There are 5 star hotels, big markets etc.
Via Israel almost 2000 trucks arive with all kind of necessary things, sponsored by the U.N. Arab countries and Israel.
But still Hamas, is attacking child-holiday camps organised by the U.N. because of mixed seating for 4-12 year olds. The U.N. organizes the food for a few weeks for those camps, with music and normal activities.

It's mainly Hamas that never wanted to talk, not even to the U.N. this week about creating an own state or any compromise at all. In 1920's they got about 67 percent of the Land, and still they were not satisfied, so than they claimed also the West Bank for themselves in the '60's, now they have about 74 percent of the Land, and still not satisfied. Who should repent a bit about killing and ethnicly cleansing about 1.000.000 Jews from Muslim countries?
BUT indeed some ''Palestinians'' did own land in Israel, maybe the U.N. can talk more about how much land the Jews lost in Muslim countries, and then see what surrounding countries have to say, (for example taking back their own Turks and Jordanians) And why did the Armenians and Kurds left even towards Israel (ex Ottoman-empire) in the 1920's because in Turkey they were not safe. etc.etc.
The conflict is more ''political and spiritual'' in my opinion than about food.

#8
Hi Hope7 again...

ABOUT kosher and Halal food:
In this case the U.N. comes in ''another house''. IF you would eat at your mothers house, you don't go into her kitchen and kook for her food that is not allowed I guess. According to her 7th day adventist tradition it might hurt her feelings but also her Chruch-doctrine/laws.
Jews and Muslims can't eat outside the house Christian food, because they got rid of God's laws about it. So the U.N. should just bring in only food that is lawfull.
Jews and Muslims do eat eggs and milk. The Almighty didn't say anything about that (although we have to check the eggs for blood that might be in it).
It is not because YOU see anyting wrong in things... The Almighty demand it from Jews (and so also Muslims understand it from the decendents of Abraham). So that is why your U.N. and Help-organisations provoke people sometimes by sending unlawfull food. We can't eat it, and they have a smile that they are so well thinking about us, this just creates uncomfortable situations.
IN The 7th Day Adventist Chuch, it's an advise not to eat meat. It is NOT a Church teaching that everybody has to be vegetarian. I saw 7th Day Adventist eating meat and drinking wine. The real requirements are more about health issues, eating healthy food etc.
Different Sabatical movements started allready in Europe around the 1400's to eat more according to what they thought God asked from them. (Maybe they did it earlier, but the first written sources are from that time, and maybe there were all kind of Christian groups, who kept sort of kosher)
Mainly in Central Europe were groups that kept ways of slaugthering etc. But never claimed to be Jewish, just 7th day keepers. The later 7th Day Adventist Church founded in the U.S. took traditions from there.

#9
Thank you but I dont know that I will ever be well again after what Ive been through, but thanks for saying that away. I put my trust in G-d. I am studying about Shabbat and my only concern is some of my family already think Im too religious if I start worshiping on Saturday they will probably think Ive gone off the deep end. But Im loving Saturdays more and more, I picked up 150 signatures this last Saturday....wow! that is 400% of my usual day! G-d bless you.
#10
(09-16-2011, 01:01 PM)HOPE7 Wrote: Dear Yetzirah,

I dont think the Romans repented of anything, hense the fall of the Roman empire and I can only speak for myself when I say that repentence moves mountains and If I had a mountain of Palestinians at my front and side doors Id be repenting my heart out! Advice those in that predicament can take or leave since I am not in their shoes.
I dont know about Kosher foods, Ive never been taught about them. I have read some on vegetarianism and my adopted mother was Seventh Day Adventist and they had mostly a vegetarian diet, except when I took her out to eat with us and she ate what we ate, I think she did so gladly by her eagerness to dine out with us. She served me tofu turkey one Thanksgiving, not bad! I think I could be a vegetarian, but I dont see anything wrong with eating eggs and drinking milk, they are naturally produced.
There has to be another solution than to give Palestinains Jewish land! Couldnt we buy them off? Couldnt we pay them to move and cultivate some other desert, we could pour JFJ anointing oil on it and bless that land too! I still think the food for weapons plan is a good one! An island paradise with time shares that they could live in very inexpensively would be nice! There has to be some smart ideas out there without surrendering precious promised land! I hope G-d reveals it to the leaders soon and stop the UN from being the ultimate bully by forcing Jewish people to divide what is theres! G-d bless Israel. PS ITS raining!!!

Hi Hope,
A problem is that it isn't really real estate or land that the people who call themselves "Palestinians" are after.They could be handed an island paradise ,or the most exclusive private properties of billionaires and they probably would not take it and still be screaming and carrying on that they want all of Israel.The real problem is that they have been taught to hate Jews ,and that they therefore want to "do away with" or eliminate Israel and the Jewish people.The level of hatred and anti semitism in this indoctrination has probably not been seen since Hitler and the Holocaust.The "Palestinian " people are being lied toand agitated by larger Moslem governments who are using them as political pawns to gain world "sympathy" by not allowing them to return to any Arab country. The palestians have more freedoms and amenities and rights in Israel than in any of the Arab countries in the middle east,but they cant see it.
The ideas you have given are sane solutions to the problem.Tragically, the real problem is hatred and anti semitism.The only real solution we can have is for people to begin to love and respect their Jewish cousins,and to pray for Yeshua to put love in peoples hearts.

You might find it interesting to do a study on kosher food since it is both a Spiritually stimulating and healthy diet You might want to some Jewish food.A lot of it is very good.


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