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Jesus Christ ~ YHVH come in the flesh
The verses you quote -- Num. 23:19, I Samuel 15:29, Hosea 11:9 -- overlook two (at least) important points:

Jesus, who is the second Person of the one Godhead, was not incarnate (born as a human being) until about 5 B.C., long after those verses were written. Before that date, He was still in Heaven, to which He returned after His resurrection.

During His years as a man on Earth, He was 100 percent human and 100 percent God. Such a thing is impossible for us mortals. Worshipping Jesus is worshipping God.

"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..." -- John 1:14

No explanations or evidence will convince anyone who has chosen to reject Him.
(01-13-2014, 01:45 PM)MAlan Wrote: The verses you quote -- Num. 23:19, I Samuel 15:29, Hosea 11:9 -- overlook two (at least) important points:

Jesus, who is the second Person of the one Godhead, was not incarnate (born as a human being) until about 5 B.C., long after those verses were written. Before that date, He was still in Heaven, to which He returned after His resurrection.
A fact ignored by people is that the Hebrew word "lo" means not, cannot, and no as well. Looking at the verses above, we know that G-d cannot be a man ever.

How do you differentiate your god except by the physical? In which case, they are not equal or of the same essence.

(01-13-2014, 01:45 PM)MAlan Wrote: During His years as a man on Earth, He was 100 percent human and 100 percent God. Such a thing is impossible for us mortals. Worshipping Jesus is worshipping God.
This cannot be true because we see the spirit/abandoning J-sus before his death, and coming on him before his ministry. So, he wasn't G-d throughout his lifetime even by NT accounts.

Which part of J-sus do you worship the man or the god, because we care not to worship any part of creation, Ex 20:4-6.

(01-13-2014, 01:45 PM)MAlan Wrote: "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..." -- John 1:14

No explanations or evidence will convince anyone who has chosen to reject Him.
Someone who wants to worship the physical will find it difficult to abandon their dependencies on foreign ideas.
(12-08-2013, 10:28 AM)Nachshon Wrote:
(12-06-2013, 04:34 PM)Tanachreader Wrote: Ezek 36:26-27 hasn't happened for Israel. Not till they acknowledge Yeshua is Lord
There is no source in Tanakh that says these verses are dependent on a belief in messiah.
Messiah is Immanuel. The flesh has formed on the bones, but the breath of life in Hashems Spirit has not fully filled the body, save but a remnant.


Micah 5:2“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans[b] of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”


3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned
until the time when she who is in labor bears a son,
and the rest of his brothers return
to join the Israelites.


4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
in the strength of the Lord,
in the majesty of the name of the Lord his G-D.
And they will live securely, for then his greatness
will reach to the ends of the earth.
(01-15-2014, 07:21 AM)Azriel Wrote: Messiah is Immanuel. The flesh has formed on the bones, but the breath of life in Hashems Spirit has not fully filled the body, save but a remnant.


Micah 5:2“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans[b] of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”


3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned
until the time when she who is in labor bears a son,
and the rest of his brothers return
to join the Israelites.


4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
in the strength of the Lord,
in the majesty of the name of the Lord his G-D.
And they will live securely, for then his greatness
will reach to the ends of the earth.
You didn't really respond to my reply to Tanachreader, did you? Anyway, the phrase "G-d is with us" is used in several verses in the Tanakh: 2 Chr 13:12, 2 Chr 32:8, Psalms 46:7, Psalms 46:11, Isa 7:14, Isa 8:10.

Remnant - Zeph 3:13, Zech 8:23


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