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What is the proof from the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about Israel?
#11
(01-24-2014, 01:30 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 12:51 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 07:29 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Then your offering is crap you are sinner's like everone else not spotless
Wow, such language for a man of god. Is this how you play when you can't answer a question directly?

Should we contact the Admin to control you?

Sorry I should have said pooh pooh
So 30+ years of service to J-sus, and this is all you come up with? Nice.
#12
(01-24-2014, 01:38 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:30 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 12:51 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 07:29 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Then your offering is crap you are sinner's like everone else not spotless
Wow, such language for a man of god. Is this how you play when you can't answer a question directly?

Should we contact the Admin to control you?

Sorry I should have said pooh pooh
So 30+ years of service to J-sus, and this is all you come up with? Nice.

Let me ask you then!
Has God accepted your death as a sin offeringAngel

What do you think of this
Eliyahu wrote
No, they were sinofferings for themselves, accepted by God.
Everybody dies for his own sins, Not for those of the neighbour.
#13
(01-24-2014, 02:04 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:38 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:30 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 12:51 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 07:29 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Then your offering is crap you are sinner's like everone else not spotless
Wow, such language for a man of god. Is this how you play when you can't answer a question directly?

Should we contact the Admin to control you?

Sorry I should have said pooh pooh
So 30+ years of service to J-sus, and this is all you come up with? Nice.

Let me ask you then!
Has God accepted your death as a sin offeringAngel

What do you think of this
Eliyahu wrote
No, they were sinofferings for themselves, accepted by God.
Everybody dies for his own sins, Not for those of the neighbour.
I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.
#14
(01-24-2014, 03:17 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 02:04 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:38 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:30 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 12:51 PM)Nachshon Wrote: Wow, such language for a man of god. Is this how you play when you can't answer a question directly?

Should we contact the Admin to control you?

Sorry I should have said pooh pooh
So 30+ years of service to J-sus, and this is all you come up with? Nice.

Let me ask you then!
Has God accepted your death as a sin offeringAngel

What do you think of this
Eliyahu wrote
No, they were sinofferings for themselves, accepted by God.
Everybody dies for his own sins, Not for those of the neighbour.
I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.

You can't sin is not acceptable to God and must be sent into the wilderness
#15
(01-24-2014, 03:30 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 03:17 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 02:04 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:38 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 01:30 PM)Tanachreader Wrote: Sorry I should have said pooh pooh
So 30+ years of service to J-sus, and this is all you come up with? Nice.

Let me ask you then!
Has God accepted your death as a sin offeringAngel

What do you think of this
Eliyahu wrote
No, they were sinofferings for themselves, accepted by God.
Everybody dies for his own sins, Not for those of the neighbour.
I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.

You can't sin is not acceptable to God and must be sent into the wilderness
Sorry, your statement is incomprehensible. Do you want to try again?
#16
(01-24-2014, 03:55 PM)Nachshon Wrote: I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.

Then you deny Isaiah 53


The death of the Righteous atones.
#17
(01-25-2014, 06:58 AM)Azriel Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 03:55 PM)Nachshon Wrote: I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.

Then you deny Isaiah 53


The death of the Righteous atones.

Bs'd

Isaiah 53 is about Israel being punished for the sins of Israel.

No messiah to be found there.

NOBODY can give me any proof from the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

That's because it just doesn't exist.


The proof that the servant is Israel is abundant.


Isaiah 53 discussion closed.
#18
Seekers and believers alike will find helpful information about Isaiah 53 and many other prophetic passages in Michael L. Brown's book "Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus: Messianic Prophecy Objections," which is volume 3 in his series. He discusses more than a dozen objections to the messianic view of Isaiah 52-53 and other key prophetic passages.

The book, as well as the series, is available through the "Store" section of this web site, as well as through other outlets.
#19
(01-25-2014, 09:26 AM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-25-2014, 06:58 AM)Azriel Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 03:55 PM)Nachshon Wrote: I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.

Then you deny Isaiah 53


The death of the Righteous atones.

Bs'd

Isaiah 53 is about Israel being punished for the sins of Israel.

No messiah to be found there.

NOBODY can give me any proof from the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

That's because it just doesn't exist.


The proof that the servant is Israel is abundant.


Isaiah 53 discussion closed.
If Israel died. How can you be here?
#20
(01-25-2014, 06:58 AM)Azriel Wrote:
(01-24-2014, 03:55 PM)Nachshon Wrote: I cannot die for anyone else's sins. I die as a result of my own sin.
Then you deny Isaiah 53

The death of the Righteous atones.
Then we don't need J-sus since there are more righteous people than just him. Remember, you've quoted the Talmud before on this subject.


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