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What is the proof from the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about Israel?
#31
(01-26-2014, 10:37 PM)IamBenny Wrote: Isaiah 53 Is Messiah, and you can not change that...

Bs'd

NOBODY can give any proof from Isaiah or the rest of the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

The proof from Isaiah that chapter 53 speaks about ISRAEL is abundant.

Everybody with some intellectual integrity will admit that Isaiah 53 is about Israel.

You cannot change these facts.

Isaiah 53 is one of the many Tanach texts which have no bearing on the messiah whatsoever, that are brought by the Christians as "messianic prophecies fulfilled by JC".

The NT and Christianity is full of those deceptions.

For more of 'm, look here: http://forums.jewsforjesus.org/thread-9871.html



In the service of Y-H-W-H,


Eliyahu, light unto the nations

"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4

"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!" Micah 4:5

#32
(01-27-2014, 12:01 AM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-26-2014, 10:37 PM)IamBenny Wrote: Isaiah 53 Is Messiah, and you can not change that...

Bs'd

NOBODY can give any proof from Isaiah or the rest of the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

The proof from Isaiah that chapter 53 speaks about ISRAEL is abundant.

Everybody with some intellectual integrity will admit that Isaiah 53 is about Israel.

You cannot change these facts.

Isaiah 53 is one of the many Tanach texts which have no bearing on the messiah whatsoever, that are brought by the Christians as "messianic prophecies fulfilled by JC".

The NT and Christianity is full of those deceptions.

For more of 'm, look here: http://forums.jewsforjesus.org/thread-9871.html



In the service of Y-H-W-H,


Eliyahu, light unto the nations

"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4

"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!" Micah 4:5


Isaiah could not prove anything in ancient times in fact he was murdered.

Obvious that unbelief of Israel can be very dangerous to followers of God.
#33
(01-28-2014, 10:51 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Isaiah could not prove anything in ancient times in fact he was murdered.

Obvious that unbelief of Israel can be very dangerous to followers of God.

Bs'd

Christians cannot bring any proof from Isaiah or the rest of the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

The proof for the servant in Isaiah 53 being Israel is abundant.

Case closed.
#34
The O.T. is all about Yeshua..

Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
#35
(01-28-2014, 11:31 PM)IamBenny Wrote: The O.T. is all about Yeshua..

Bs'd

That is what you believe.

The fact is that JC is NOWHERE to be found in the Tanach.
#36
(01-29-2014, 04:57 AM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 11:31 PM)IamBenny Wrote: The O.T. is all about Yeshua..

Bs'd

That is what you believe.

The fact is that JC is NOWHERE to be found in the Tanach.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

(01-29-2014, 04:57 AM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 11:31 PM)IamBenny Wrote: The O.T. is all about Yeshua..

Bs'd

That is what you believe.

The fact is that JC is NOWHERE to be found in the Tanach.
And it is the truth...YHVH is Yeshua...The Son of the Father...
#37
(01-29-2014, 06:43 AM)IamBenny Wrote: And it is the truth...YHVH is Yeshua...The Son of the Father...

Bs'd

In that case, who is the father?
#38
(01-28-2014, 09:55 PM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 10:51 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Isaiah could not prove anything in ancient times in fact he was murdered.

Obvious that unbelief of Israel can be very dangerous to followers of God.

Bs'd

Christians cannot bring any proof from Isaiah or the rest of the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

The proof for the servant in Isaiah 53 being Israel is abundant.

Case closed.

The Father reveals His Son, it is up to Him and not your intelligence
Obviously Jews today have never experienced God.
If they had they would have testimony. In that is the proof to yourselves that God is not like a husband to any of you as He said in Tanach.
#39
(01-29-2014, 03:07 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 09:55 PM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 10:51 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Isaiah could not prove anything in ancient times in fact he was murdered.

Obvious that unbelief of Israel can be very dangerous to followers of God.

Bs'd

Christians cannot bring any proof from Isaiah or the rest of the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

The proof for the servant in Isaiah 53 being Israel is abundant.

Case closed.
The Father reveals His Son, it is up to Him and not your intelligence
Obviously Jews today have never experienced God.
If they had they would have testimony. In that is the proof to yourselves that God is not like a husband to any of you as He said in Tanach.
Interesting. Your testimony is different than what Tanakh spells out, Isa 8:16,20; Psalms 19:7, 78:5; Ezek 36:26-27.
#40
(01-29-2014, 09:34 PM)Nachshon Wrote:
(01-29-2014, 03:07 PM)Tanachreader Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 09:55 PM)Eliyahu Wrote:
(01-28-2014, 10:51 AM)Tanachreader Wrote: Isaiah could not prove anything in ancient times in fact he was murdered.

Obvious that unbelief of Israel can be very dangerous to followers of God.

Bs'd

Christians cannot bring any proof from Isaiah or the rest of the Tanach that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah.

The proof for the servant in Isaiah 53 being Israel is abundant.

Case closed.
The Father reveals His Son, it is up to Him and not your intelligence
Obviously Jews today have never experienced God.
If they had they would have testimony. In that is the proof to yourselves that God is not like a husband to any of you as He said in Tanach.
Interesting. Your testimony is different than what Tanakh spells out, Isa 8:16,20; Psalms 19:7, 78:5; Ezek 36:26-27.
Joh_8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.


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